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RE: To: Human Beings - Kauket - 10-06-2016
(10-06-2016, 05:15 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: Is it ignorant? Or is it more like what people have been brainwashed to agree to the main stream of what contemporary art is and try so hard to find something good about it, and then facing reality that it is actually just a dirty apron with paint smeared on it.
Yep. A urinal is not art but when you flip it upside down it is now a fountain! Wow!
It has the artist's signature and date on it and that is all that counts.
I see it more of a spit in the face to people that can actually create things and have talent.
Yes. Yes it is. It's the same kind of thing where people go 'Ohhh, Cartoons aren't art! Anyone can do them!' - which isn't the case.
For the example you provided, there's still technique to it. The dynamic of the fluid, the amount of motion you'll be setting on the page, how much fluid you put on, how much you'll need to shake it, etc. Infact, painting an object with only using the motion of the canvas for the paint flow would be pretty skilled.
Art can be anything. Nothing constrains it. It isn't brainwashing. Time is just changing along with people.
Sure, a lot of modern art is actually pretty blergh nowadays, and the whole 'mona lisa'-esque paintings aren't my type of attraction. Plain and simple, that's how I like my style. It's great because the mere change of some lines can change the setup and the style of a drawing. I was talking with a friend about how simply modifying one aspect makes something so much more attractive. Ironically, less detailed pictures are far more attractive to the eye, like looking at anime.
RE: To: Human Beings - Corile - 10-06-2016
(10-06-2016, 05:22 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:(10-06-2016, 04:13 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: I would compare Rap to the arts just like i would compare contemporary art to the arts.(10-06-2016, 05:19 PM)Corile Wrote: Except comparing contemporary art to rap is fallacious in pretty much every way.
/read
"the arts"
not "art"
> a fucking leaf
What are you even talking about now?
RE: To: Human Beings - Petitioner - 10-06-2016
(10-06-2016, 05:24 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:(10-06-2016, 05:15 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: edit: anyway back to my point on my rap comment@Petitioner
I find it funny how he used rap to comment on the school system.
As in...
Yo let me slice some rhymes on academia and say they are worthless and dont do anything for kids
yo yo yo education what is that?
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Why is using rap to comment on the education system funny? Do you think rappers are inherently less intelligent?
RE: To: Human Beings - nOmnomnOm - 10-06-2016
(10-06-2016, 05:29 PM)Petitioner Wrote:(10-06-2016, 05:24 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:(10-06-2016, 05:15 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: edit: anyway back to my point on my rap comment@Petitioner
I find it funny how he used rap to comment on the school system.
As in...
Yo let me slice some rhymes on academia and say they are worthless and dont do anything for kids
yo yo yo education what is that?
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Why is using rap to comment on the education system funny? Do you think rappers are inherently less intelligent?
I find the form of expression to be less intelligent
RE: To: Human Beings - Petitioner - 10-06-2016
(10-06-2016, 05:29 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:Why? I've already given a detailed explanation of the ways rap can be and is used to intelligently discuss complex topics.(10-06-2016, 05:29 PM)Petitioner Wrote:(10-06-2016, 05:24 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:(10-06-2016, 05:15 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: edit: anyway back to my point on my rap comment@Petitioner
I find it funny how he used rap to comment on the school system.
As in...
Yo let me slice some rhymes on academia and say they are worthless and dont do anything for kids
yo yo yo education what is that?
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Why is using rap to comment on the education system funny? Do you think rappers are inherently less intelligent?
I find the form of expression to be less intelligent
RE: To: Human Beings - Kauket - 10-06-2016
(10-06-2016, 05:29 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: I find the form of expression to be less intelligentThen that's subjective.
I don't like rap, and I don't listen to it, but it's still an art form and a way of communication. Rapping to me, is really hard, and personally, you gotta be really creative and witty to form perfect sentences to go with the motion.
I guess the closest rap was listening to massive attack? xdddd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlmORqMze-0
(ok it's nowhere near it I know but w/e)
RE: To: Human Beings - Wildkins - 10-06-2016
i'm going to go ahead and enter this thread with only reading like two posts
art is an incredibly subjective thing that cannot really be defined by anyone; we had a discussion about this in class a while back and we basically came to the conclusion that it's really hard to even pin down a definition of art that everyone would agree on, much less classify certain things as "art" or not. 4'33" is an oft-quoted example of something that people sort of argue about (as in, if it's to be considered art, music, or what), and you'll find similar discussions across many different works throughout the age
just because you don't like something or think it's not profound or high-class doesn't mean that it isn't, it just means that's your opinion. your view of art / the arts is incredibly different, depending on your experiences, your tastes, and what definition of "art" you're working with (if any)
personally I find little subjective meaning in things like rap and pollock's work but i'm sure as heck not going to tell other people that it's not worthy of the classification of "art"
RE: To: Human Beings - Omi - 10-06-2016
but pretentious BS isn't art, it's just pretentious BS :^)
RE: To: Human Beings - Neptune - 10-06-2016
Regarding the OP: Eh I don't agree with it fully, but the education system here (in Canada), while still better than many countries, still needs a massive overhaul and not just high schools but universities as well. They need to do a MUCH better job of hiring the right people for the job (professors, teachers, etc) and bridging that gap between theoretical & practical. High schools here keep telling students that they're preparing students for university, and universities keep telling students that they're preparing students for the work force, sadly none of their claims hold any merit.
RE: To: Human Beings - matskiuk - 10-06-2016
What a load of rubbish did I watch for a few seconds (and no I won’t watch the rest, it’s pathetic!!)
So he’s basically saying don’t go to school? Kids should not have to go to school?
Imagine when the child gets to the age when he/she tries to find a job, or enter some kind of training to get a job (or should that child also not go into training as that is also some kind of “schooling?)
He/she will not get anywhere!! Won’t be accepted into any position in any company
Imagine an employer interviewing 2 people for a position
One turns up shows he/she as worked hard at studying, got some grades, socialised with other children working together at tasks where they learnt to overcome problems, and got awarded for it, brings with them a school report showing all that
The other turns up with a blank piece of paper showing nothing they ever did, and by saying “I didn’t go to school, I sat at home on my computer/console looking at internet, and because someone said I shouldn’t be a gold fish” WTF!!!!
Look at the countries where there isn’t any electricity yet the children love going (or trying) to get an education because they realise that it’s so important to get one to get anywhere in this mad stupid selfish world.
I have had many conversations with people saying they won’t school their child (also known as de-schooling), and they all just sound lazy and selfish in restricting/limiting their child’s future in trying to gain progression in life. At least let the child as he/she grows to decide for themselves what they want to do, they are far too young to know anything about life yet (though many teenagers reckon they know everything!), so already choosing not to let them go to school is irresponsible.
Anyone that says that schooling is bad is just plain stupid.
Some parents I have spoken to have said “well school didn’t do anything for me, I haven’t gone anywhere or got a job”, doesn’t mean that getting an education is wrong or has failed!!
This current swarm of videos like this and attitudes, just amazes me!!