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Re; Moderation, Coarse Language thread - Psyentific - 08-29-2014

I don't know which mod deleted my Coarse Language thread/complaint; If you read this, please PM me with an explanation and lock this thread. I've got nothing to say that isn't better said in private.


RE: Request for Contact; Re, Moderation, Coarse Language thread - Psyentific - 08-29-2014

Aw, to hell with it. I'm not going to be this fuming mad tomorrow, when the intended recipient of this may or may not drop me a line.

Because really, there's no excuse for this. Calling attention to a questionable, heavy-handed section of the rules, citing examples, sinking time and effort into proofing, formatting, and citing, providing comic relief at appropriate moments, and generally questioning the community rules, those who enforce them, and the status quo they maintain.

And then, the thread is deleted. Not edited. Not locked. Removed outright.

That's completely unprofessional, and in conjunction with the issues I brought up and the content of the thread gives me an exceptionally poor impression of the moderators and administrators of this forum. If there's one segment of a post that's violating the rules, you have a multitude of tools available to you to correct that. If you're not in a state to do that, you've got channels to pass it off or pass it up. There is absolutely no excuse for deleting a thread where prior administrative decisions and rules are questioned, and every reason not to.

Admittedly, I might have gone a bit over the line by linking George Carlin, but outright censoring a post questioning the rules and asking for an explanation is so incredibly gob-smackingly BAD that it makes me question whether this community is actually something that I want to be a part of; To sink time and effort into contributing to, and generally making a better place.

Because holy shit. REMOVING criticism.


RE: Request for Contact; Re, Moderation, Coarse Language thread - Garrett Jax - 08-29-2014

I'm not sure which Mod invised your thread, but after seeing the links you provided there, I can see why he did. In your efforts to bring attention to a specific rule, you violated one. If you were to make your point without the links, then your thread would have been spared.

Please be aware that by starting an account on this forum you have agreed to abide by the rules therein. You can call into question the necessity of the rules, but as long as you are a member here, you will abide by them.



RE: Re; Moderation, Coarse Language thread - Psyentific - 08-29-2014

(08-29-2014, 07:08 AM)Garrett Jax Wrote: I'm not sure which Mod invised your thread, but after seeing the links you provided there, I can see why he did. In your efforts to bring attention to a specific rule, you violated one. If you were to make your point without the links, then your thread would have been spared.

Please be aware that by starting an account on this forum you have agreed to abide by the rules therein. You can call into question the necessity of the rules, but as long as you are a member here, you will abide by them.

As a Moderator, he has tools available to remove those specific links. He also has the tools to inform me that I've broken a rule, and point out where and how.

He didn't use those. Editing a post is trivial; Especially if that post is the top of a thread where rules can be discussed. Now that the thread is invisible, however, I can't do it myself.

I gotta admit; I didn't read the rules. Or, rather, I didn't read the rules specific to the forum. They're generally the same everywhere - Don't be a dick, keep IC in IC and OOC in OOC. Don't troll, don't harass, don't dox people. Don't be racist, anti-semetic, or generally hateful. Don't post porn, don't post gore, don't post illegal things. That's 90% of everyone's rules, rattled off the top of my head.

So, "No Swearing" comes as an incredible shock to me, because the last time I ran into that was Habbo Hotel, or Club Penguin, or some other definitively child-friendly site. Almost any other forum, even for Official AAA Video Game, even Facebook, does not enforce a ban on harsh language except in the most egregrious of cases.

That's why I wanted an explanation for it; Banning coarse language is very much non-standard, and given the community and (my mental picture of) its average user, it doesn't seem to fit.

If you've got access to the original thread, I'd appreciate it if you could copy-paste the OP and PM it to me, so I can salvage it tomorrow morning and start a proper discussion on this.

Also, consider telling your forum coders to make the profanity-filter user-side, and attach moderator nametags to moderator actions. Also, feel free to lock the thread; I'm pretty much spent and, unless you've got something to say, I think the discussion's pretty much over.

seriously mods, edit, don't delete, bad form and leads to this crap


RE: Re; Moderation, Coarse Language thread - Echo 7-7 - 08-29-2014

This can be solved through civilised discussion and PMs as necessary. The OP will be copied and sent to you. Thread locked.

P.S. No, I didn't make your thread invisible.


RE: Re; Moderation, Coarse Language thread - Garrett Jax - 08-29-2014

It's left to the Moderator's discretion as to how a thread should be moderated. Normally, we do try and notify the OP when their thread has been moderated, stating the reasons why. Also, we sometimes try to salvage a poignant post that is sullied by a bad word or two. However, the Moderator is well within his rights to invise a post that is clearly in violation of forum rules.

As to your point about profanity. I suggest you go back to 4chan. You will be much happier.