(10-24-2014, 04:13 PM)Timmy Wrote:

(10-24-2014, 04:10 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: So, you either have to take SPECIFIC STEPS to advance the story development via talking with Devs and faction leaders, and then MAKING EVENTS that actually have storyline consequences and outcomes, OR...you have to learn to just enjoy the fights individually as they come.

It is funny, because... I offered that, and no one seemed to like the idea... and it gets more funny because no one liked the idea because Liberty would totally loose everything then.

(10-24-2014, 04:15 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: They don't have to lose ANYTHING if they don't agree to the event in the first place. That's why it's important to talk with the factions AND the devs to make these things happen.

(10-24-2014, 04:13 PM)Timmy Wrote:

(10-24-2014, 04:10 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: So, you either have to take SPECIFIC STEPS to advance the story development via talking with Devs and faction leaders, and then MAKING EVENTS that actually have storyline consequences and outcomes, OR...you have to learn to just enjoy the fights individually as they come.

It is funny, because... I offered that, and no one seemed to like the idea... and it gets more funny because no one liked the idea because Liberty would totally loose everything then.

(10-24-2014, 04:18 PM)Timmy Wrote:

(10-24-2014, 04:15 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: They don't have to lose ANYTHING if they don't agree to the event in the first place. That's why it's important to talk with the factions AND the devs to make these things happen.

Ahahaha! Liberty will never agree to event that includes loosing something of their own. So there's no point in your suggestion, sir.

(10-24-2014, 04:20 PM)Carter Wrote: The idea is great.

But i have to disagree with you at one point. Even if most Liberty players are newbies flying happily their caps that have always dreamed for, there are skilled people too. Sometimes they lose sometimes they win.

But then this thought comes in my mind saying "hell, he might be right. What's gonna happen then?" That's probably the only reason the Devs will never agree with an event like that, i honestly don't see a better reason not to.

(10-24-2014, 04:23 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: The problem is also with attitudes like yours. Coming on forums and whining that you guys don't get to own all of Liberty because they are simply too scared and no match for your big, brave, Rheinland balls certainly doesn't help the problem, does it?

I think you'd find both Liberty and Devs more agreeable than you think, provided the events were actually well thought out and not simply "HEY! EVENT THIS WEEKEND TO SEE WHO OWNS TEXAS! YAY RHEINLAND!"

(10-24-2014, 04:30 PM)Timmy Wrote:

(10-24-2014, 04:23 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: The problem is also with attitudes like yours. Coming on forums and whining that you guys don't get to own all of Liberty because they are simply too scared and no match for your big, brave, Rheinland balls certainly doesn't help the problem, does it?

I think you'd find both Liberty and Devs more agreeable than you think, provided the events were actually well thought out and not simply "HEY! EVENT THIS WEEKEND TO SEE WHO OWNS TEXAS! YAY RHEINLAND!"

And again you're wrong, sir.

Firstly about assuming that I am Rheinland-whore or w/e you decide to call it. I haven't played in Rheinland for a bit. I just recently joined [RM]. Like two days ago. And as the mater of fact, I have been playing in Liberty for like 3 out of 4 years I play on Discovery. And totally seen enough to make my opinion.

And secondly, you're wrong because the idea I suggested included a thoughtful preparation of event from the faction leaders and someone from admin or dev team. And still didn't get much support, none of dev or admin didn't even answer the thread.

Liberty won't be cooperative not because of lack of thoughts. It's just arrogance or something like that. It's just the same why Jack Henderson doesn't want to give up Java to GRN, which by any means of sense should have took control over it after the first CR official landing on it. And this case wasn't a single. Do you want to know the only reason why this didn't happen? Because Jack doesn't want IMG to loose stations. And devs support him on that.

Quote:And secondly, you're wrong because the idea I suggested included a thoughtful preparation of event from the faction leaders and someone from admin or dev team. And still didn't get much support, none of dev or admin didn't even answer the thread.

Quote:Liberty won't be cooperative not because of lack of thoughts. It's just arrogance or something like that. It's just the same why Jack Henderson doesn't want to give up Java to GRN, which by any means of sense should have took control over it after the first CR official landing on it. And this case wasn't a single. Do you want to know the only reason why this didn't happen? Because Jack doesn't want IMG to loose stations. And devs support him on that.

(10-24-2014, 04:43 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: Honestly, I can't help but think that the only reason why we don't play a mod where in game actions actually effect the storyline is because where one thing is applicable somewhere, it needs to be applicable everywhere. Whereas we can probably get decent-ish fights in other areas of Sirius, Liberty is a newbie spawn pit and thus it's deemed 'unfair' to base Liberty's forces on them.

I for one say that we really need to just stop babying the players and actually turn this server into a proper RP server where in game actions do define the universe we play in. Actions without consequences is something that has certainly turned people off the mod.

We could easily just arrange events to dictate things if we absolutely have to. But I say that if Liberty can't defend itself due to it's own playerbase, then tough. Other games have features where in game actions affect the grand scale of things, and the players don't complain when things don't go their way.

An un-evolvng storyline based in an un-evolving universe gets pretty stale. Or rather, pre-determined events or progression is pretty lame.