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RE: End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict - Zen_Mechanics - 10-23-2014
The end should include hudsonburg - I would say texasburg but then again people will go mad. But liberty pulling all of their strings to aid bretonia surely creates a chance for rheinland to grab something before any "treaty" is signed. It's how things work, fire till deadline.
RE: End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict - Pavel - 10-23-2014
Speaking about server-side gameplay mechanics only Alley, periodically move newbie spawnpoint between systems other than Pennsylvania, so other factions and houses get more fresh blood. Sure starting point in Penn isn't the only reason Liberty always is active, but I suppouse it's the major one.
Hessians gaining more foothold makes sense, there already are well places hessian and corsair bases around and inside Rheinland territory, the "only" problem is the lack of players (but that same could be said about entire disco)
RE: End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict - Mao - 10-23-2014
Alley, more threads like this one and more GoT reference on your profile and I'll fall in love, srsly... despite the past.
Anyway, on topic:
Liberty
They kinda won and crippled RM. Now, LN forces are needed somewhere else. See Gallia and even Kusari.
New battlefields: Manchester, Magellan, Cortez, Galileo, Kepler.
Rheinland
With many of their battleships disabled and high loses, they face the enemies within. Red Hessians, Corsairs and others start becoming a real problem for the tired military. A frontal assault of RH in Dresden would surely spice things up in Rheinland. RH finally made a battleship so there's a good possibility for huge cap fights.
New battlefields: Omega-7, Dresden, Stuttgart
Kusari
With their navy defeated, they need economic growth to recover. However, political struggle and terrorists are about to throw the house into a civil war. BD should take the opportunity and push the KNF in Honshu and GMG would raise even more ambitions about that system. On the other hand, Gallia would try to keep this state stable as much as possible in order to maintain stability at their "eastern" borders. They'd send a battlegroup to secure the western Kusari (Kyushu, New Tokyo, Rishiri, Shikoku). This would be seen as a provocative action by Liberty that would decide to attack.
New battlefields: Honshu, Shikoku, Okinawa
Bretonia
Trying to get back some of its lost territories, BAF tries to push their forces along with LN and CR in Leeds, via Manchester. However, Gallia is pushing launching their final assault against Bretonia on 3 fronts (Dublin, New London, Manchester).
New battlefields: Manchester, Dublin, New London, Magellan, Cortez.
Gallia
Gallia is now way too stretched. Their forces fight on numerous battlefields against Liberty, Bretonia, Blood Dragons, Outcasts and others. A new front is open by the CR when they try a daring attack against GRN in Tau-31 and Tau-23, trying to cut down enemy supply lines. IMG finally switches sides and also attack the GRN making their lives miserable in the Taus. The Council launches simultaneous attacks from Champagne and the Outcasts enter the fighting in the Taus, seeking their own interests.
New battlefields: Manchester, Dublin, New London, Shikoku, Galileo, Kepler, Leeds, Magellan, Cortez, Tau-31, Tau-23, Orkney, Champagne, Burgundy
Make a new system for beginners, like "Unknown" (minus the radiation). Put 7 jumholes in it, each of them leading to one of the capitals of the houses and have each of these JHs guarded by a small station. On that station place a commodity like a history manual for players to read and understand what they can find in each house.
RE: End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict - Doc Holliday - 10-23-2014
I look at it from a lore perspective. They were fighting over Hudson and Bering, neither system having much of value in them. Leave them as buffer zones...AS THEY WERE!!
-Rheinland seems to have lost sight over who loaned them money to fight Kusari during it's 80 years war....Liberty.
-Rheinland is broke from fighting two wars.
-Liberty has enough trouble with Gallia or at least it will.
And yes, it's gotten old.
RE: End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict - JohnyWalker - 10-23-2014
I see here, people only taking in count the fight... What happens with the miners and traders? Just fights everywhere, pirates everythere, embargos everywhere...
I Know fights ARE NECESARY hehehe, for keep alive the server, but i have a little idea...
"Long time ago, humans are growing up so fast... and its the moment of the Nomads. Looks like aliens noticed of this progress and need to put an end of this as soon as possible and they are using Kusari and Rheinland for getting into humans systems. From another side, Gallia have noticed about Nomads intentions, and taking adventage of this, Gallia now is attempting to stole the centered system routes. The situation turning dangerous. Kusari requesting assistance from that closest systems to try to keep out the aliens, BUT THEY ARE A LOT!.
Now, Kusari need to mess against Gallia and Omicrons, but they have no enough personel and need help from Liberty. But there is a problem, Bretonia also asking for help against Gallic invasion, making to Liberty to create a small alliance with Rheinlands to keep safe the connections with Omicrons. The situation turning strange, Bretonia need help from Freelancers (and Liberty when is possible) against Gallic invasion around TAU system, LIberty helping Kusari against Nomad invasion from SIGMA systems and Rheinlands helping Liberty against Nomads invasion from OMEGAS and SIGMA systems. Its the time for the Biggest Human Alliance!!. BE CAREFUL, some Kusari and Rheinlands humans are under Nomad mind control, and they will can attack humans!!
Well, its just an idea... combats will still there and everywhere, traders will can recover that good trades with Rheinlands
RE: End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict - Fluffyball - 10-23-2014
(10-23-2014, 12:49 PM)Doc Holliday Wrote: I look at it from a lore perspective. They were fighting over Hudson and Bering, neither system having much of value in them. Leave them as buffer zones...AS THEY WERE!!Liberty should be broken or heavily injured from fighting two wars as well. I mean, they cannot afford fighting Gallia and Rheinland in the same time.
-Rheinland seems to have lost sight over who loaned them money to fight Kusari during it's 80 years war....Liberty.
-Rheinland is broke from fighting two wars.
-Liberty has enough trouble with Gallia or at least it will.
And yes, it's gotten old.
In lore, they have NO VALUABLE RESOURCES. Moreover, if they engage in war with Kusari, it is over for them, because no H-Fuel. Rheinland border is closed. If upper border would be closed as well, imagine how Liberty would have been screwed. And not only Liberty, but Bretonia as well, because GMG must go through Kusari, Liberty and then into Bretonia.
And I don't believe GRN would just accept GMG trespassing Taus and Leeds to supply Bretonia. Sure, there's some Helium in Penny, but it is not enough to fuel two houses. Yet I am not sure if that cloud is not kinda ooRP.
RE: End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict - Swifty - 10-23-2014
(10-22-2014, 08:30 PM)Chuba Wrote: make all 4 houses attack gallia
At the current state, if Kusari grows a pair and attacks Gallia again with.... that 1 and last battleship built in Rheinland.. they would completely get wiped out from the Sirius map. Pls no... Don't ruin all the RP.
RE: End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict - Laura C. - 10-23-2014
(10-23-2014, 12:29 PM)Mao Wrote: Liberty
They kinda won and crippled RM. Now, LN forces are needed somewhere else. See Gallia and even Kusari.
New battlefields: Manchester, Magellan, Cortez, Galileo, Kepler.
Rheinland
With many of their battleships disabled and high loses, they face the enemies within. Red Hessians, Corsairs and others start becoming a real problem for the tired military. A frontal assault of RH in Dresden would surely spice things up in Rheinland. RH finally made a battleship so there's a good possibility for huge cap fights.
New battlefields: Omega-7, Dresden, Stuttgart
Kusari
With their navy defeated, they need economic growth to recover. However, political struggle and terrorists are about to throw the house into a civil war. BD should take the opportunity and push the KNF in Honshu and GMG would raise even more ambitions about that system. On the other hand, Gallia would try to keep this state stable as much as possible in order to maintain stability at their "eastern" borders. They'd send a battlegroup to secure the western Kusari (Kyushu, New Tokyo, Rishiri, Shikoku). This would be seen as a provocative action by Liberty that would decide to attack.
New battlefields: Honshu, Shikoku, Okinawa
You are too much using "lore and inRP" thinking without considering how it affects gameplay activity. Remember that what makes sense inRP doesn´t have to be the best choice for well-being of players.
"New battlefields: Omega-7, Dresden, Stuttgart" - how are these battlefields new? They are meant to be place to fight with Hessians and Corsairs all the time and it doesn´t work in last months (if not year). Same enemies, same places. In your idea you just removed the major battlefield which Rheinland has and didn´t add any new, relying mainly on Hessians as in-house enemies. Look at Kusari, did it work when war with Brets was removed and as KNF´s main enemies were intented Dragons, Farmers and GC?
That´s why I proposed "Sigma-13/Honshu" eintopf with Kusari civil war, to give Rheinland some real new battlefield while giving it also to Kusari. On the other hand, you are giving real new battlefield to Liberty despite they didn´t really need it because they will still have GRN as steady opponent and over that in-house unlawfuls which are more active than in other houses.
RE: End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict - Fluffyball - 10-23-2014
(10-23-2014, 01:05 PM)Carter Wrote:(10-22-2014, 08:30 PM)Chuba Wrote: make all 4 houses attack gallia
At the current state, if Kusari grows a pair and attacks Gallia again with.... that 1 and last battleship built in Rheinland.. they would completely get wiped out from the Sirius map. Pls no... Don't ruin all the RP.
There are at least three battleships. One in Tohoku, second in Shikoku and the last one in Kyushu.
RE: End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict - t0l - 10-23-2014
(10-23-2014, 01:02 PM)Toji-Haku Wrote:(10-23-2014, 12:49 PM)Doc Holliday Wrote: I look at it from a lore perspective. They were fighting over Hudson and Bering, neither system having much of value in them. Leave them as buffer zones...AS THEY WERE!!Liberty should be broken or heavily injured from fighting two wars as well. I mean, they cannot afford fighting Gallia and Rheinland in the same time.
-Rheinland seems to have lost sight over who loaned them money to fight Kusari during it's 80 years war....Liberty.
-Rheinland is broke from fighting two wars.
-Liberty has enough trouble with Gallia or at least it will.
And yes, it's gotten old.
In lore, they have NO VALUABLE RESOURCES. Moreover, if they engage in war with Kusari, it is over for them, because no H-Fuel. Rheinland border is closed. If upper border would be closed as well, imagine how Liberty would have been screwed. And not only Liberty, but Bretonia as well, because GMG must go through Kusari, Liberty and then into Bretonia.
And I don't believe GRN would just accept GMG trespassing Taus and Leeds to supply Bretonia.
They had more ships to begin with, and had an actual economy as opposed to Rheinland's handful of caps and mess.
The trade embargo between Kusari and Liberty did nothing, as GC and Junkers smuggled H-fuel across the border.
They do have valuable resources in Liberty. Platinum, Silver, Copper, etc, not to mention Ageira's shtick.