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T&T/ Voting logfile - Tinker and Transport - 10-27-2014

ooC Thread

As described in our faction information and the original inRP founding declaration, Tinker´s is not really a corporate firm, even if we share a lot with such entities.

Rather we are a cooperation of members and shareholders, like some sort of sci-fi oligarchy.
Though the Officials have the freedom to decide on relevant topics about their own departements most decisions are *called by vote*.
That is, once a topic has been raised a member or Official sets a timelimit till when this shall be decided ( maximun a week normaly ) and all members with voting right openly declare their vote.

Most of this has so far been done without notice in the Forum board, but now some of our members do not use Skype for excemple, and we will set up a notification board here. Senior members with voting right pls send a PM with their vote to FynnMcScrap ( 1iC T&T/ ) or an announced step-in in time so that the vote can be registered.

All player members only have 1 vote per topic, all topics will be notivied here regardless of using skype or not , and all voted decisions will be posted in this thread by 1iC or 2iC anonymously.


<Effectively Skype is for voting openly, and this thread for voting anonymously via PM.>
<only one voting form can be used per topic : EITHER Skype OR PM>



RE: T&T/ Voting logfile - FynnMcScrap - 10-27-2014

27.10.2014 : // vote called to be decided till max. 01.11.2014 , 12:00 SMT )

Vote called by FynnMcScrap for 3 topics :

  1. senior membership for Kjolborn
  2. senior membership for Doreen
  3. acceptance of a major trade contract from the gallic Council ( <<<link here>>> )

senior members entitled to vote at the moment :
  • Rob / FynnMcScrap
  • Sturm / Sturm Winger
  • Tudorel / Colonel Tudor
  • Arne / Basi Legionnes


voting closed



RE: T&T/ Voting logfile - FynnMcScrap - 10-30-2014

vote decided : ( 30.10.2014 , 19:00 SMT : last vote cast )


1 ) we welcome Kjolborn as Senior Member

2 ) we welcome Doreen as Senior Member

3 ) well, point 3 is quite academic up to now :
Contract has been accepted and is nearly fulfilled


Gratulations to the 2 new Tinker´s with full voting priviledges



RE: T&T/ Voting logfile - FynnMcScrap - 12-09-2014

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=123428 ( Yamamichi-gumi communication )
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=123428 ( Yamamichi-gumi Info & Feedback )

The Yamamichi-gumi is a well established criminal organization within Kusari, although it has only been very recently that they have taken the foray into direct intervention in interplanetary concerns....
This new player group is interested in diplomacy with T&T , and has requested docking rights at the Haven.

Docking rights have been granted and will be reviewed through our senior Members during the next month.

So far docking rights are granted on trial, and can ( and will be ) revoked if the need arrises.
Any Senior member willing to call a vote on this matter may do so either public : here in this thread. ( Or in our Skype chat. )

Greetings
Fynn


RE: T&T/ Voting logfile - Doreen - 12-10-2014

Stick with the trial to see how things work. I suspect it will be fine as they are in our home turf.


RE: T&T/ Voting logfile - FynnMcScrap - 01-17-2015

A new vote :

Gondoros George ( Deluxian ) ,Skipper of the T&T/BlackFeet , has been forwarded as a possible senior member.

Currently entitled to vote :
Fynn
Sturm
Tudor
Arne
Doreen
Kj

We already have 3 votes in favour, missing still votes from Doreen, Tudor and Arne. Pls respond till 25.01.2015.
Next vote in favour will enable us to greet our new member officialy .

Greets
Rob


RE: T&T/ Voting logfile - FynnMcScrap - 01-28-2015

(01-17-2015, 02:33 PM)FynnMcScrap Wrote: A new vote :

Gondoros George ( Deluxian ) ,Skipper of the T&T/BlackFeet , has been forwarded as a possible senior member.

Currently entitled to vote :
Fynn
Sturm
Tudor
Arne
Doreen
Kj

We already have 3 votes in favour, missing still votes from Doreen, Tudor and Arne. Pls respond till 25.01.2015.
Next vote in favour will enable us to greet our new member officialy .

Greets
Rob

Edit :
Sorry that everything got a little fuzzy, with update hype and our rescue mission to the Omikrons and everything. As I already told you via Skype :

We welcome George , T&T/BlackFeet , as new Senior Member at Tinkers.

Happy to have you here ;-)


RE: T&T/ Voting logfile - FynnMcScrap - 01-31-2015

There is a discussion at Tinkers, inRP and ooc :
This thread is to reflect that, and to inform members like Doreen who do not use our Skype chat.

inRP this discussion is discreetely done in private, without any guests at the Haven hearing about it except for the scrapper crews ( who are after all members at Tinkers, only loosing their TAG because of Server rules currently , and we are working on that ).

If anybody wishes to RP a different path, we will react accordingly, playing it out.
I would greet some feedback first, to avoid any powergaming on either my side or from members.

Fact is : After the issue with LH~ we are now discussing a treaty with the Hackers, and part of this buisness partnership is sparking some bad feelings between Tinkers members.

Remember : Tinkers are a quasi-lawful group, "white-collar" , no lawful faction.
Even if we take care to keep our reputation as clean as possible, and are strongly interested in humanitarian aid we are a small group doing what is necessary to survive between big corporate Interests, Sirius Politics and cold space.

We have always been allied with the Junker congress, even if this has not been called upon often through congress members. Part of this alleigance was Intelligence data : passing on the position of Liberty Forces ships to a incoming smuggler convoy ect. Even if we do not carry Cardamine ourselves we are still friendly to those who do, seeing it as a sort of affliction they can maybe be cured from, some day.

But the Lane Hackers want us to go further :
They want us to pass on information on targets for piracy and extortion, not only on lawful forces hunting them. They offer us a chance to salvage the bounty they pirate at some lanes for that ( also giving us a chance to rescue any crews as a byproduct ).
This point is not fully decided jet, but even if we decline active Intelligence ( pointing targets ) I am very much inclined to passing on defensive Intel and salvaging cargo and crews.

Picking up "salvaged stuff" , even rescuing crewmen from pirates is not unusual to Tinkers either : we do the same for AFC , only that this is mostely done at their hideout and not in scpace. Meaning there is no direct interaction with other players and this only being staged as background RP.

So : By Server rules and RP background the offer is set correctly, even if it will probably not make us well loved. But it´s legit. Think about that and let it sink before you decide.

This is quite an important decision for T&T/ , and as usual I try to let my Tinkers decide with me, not to dictate everything. But also : I bid you think about it in a RP context, not in ooc context only. We would "profit and split the profit with the hunters", jes. But also we would be able to minnimise the impact on civilian lives, letting those crewmembers who survive free.
And we would not be pirated ourselves.

Of course our stance toward humanitarian necessities also means that very soon reports of us cooperating with Hackers would reach lawful forces as we will never yus jettison a patient because he has seen something. Meaning we would probably be closely questioned and would once again be "those quasi-lawful scum" . Suits me, really. :-)
Even if the RP will not be easy...

Look at it my way : We will never pass on Information on allies or friends. But neither the Freelancer crewmen nor the Junker scrappers have a reason to love the big corporations or the lawful forces. We have lost 200 crewmen as our first base was destroyed, and our requests for trade or help have mostely be ignored or extremely delayed.
On the other hand we also continue to deal with LPI and other lawfuls in Liberty, and we will always be sitting between outlaw and lawful interests.

Option 1 ) we deny the Intel but accept the cargo pickup.And try to keep as neutral as possible.
Option 2 ) we deny agressive Intel, but pass on defensive Intel.
So we help the Hackers to evade or engage Liberty Forces while we do not pinpoint traders. Still dangerous, and could quit the entire deal. But fully in style for us.
Option 3 ) we fully pass on Intel, while we accept the Hackers as buisness partners.
So we would be allied with .:J:. , have a treaty with LH~ and pay fealty to LR- .
But also we would have more than a few problems with LPI and Liberty Forces.

Discuss and vote pls. No timeframe set at the moment for the vote.
I am reachable via PM and chat


>>> affix : DSAce LOG <<<

Code:
[30.01.2015 09:52:12] T&T/John.Kurt: Hello there
[30.01.2015 09:52:28] /time
[30.01.2015 09:52:28] 2015-01-30 09:52:17 SMT
[30.01.2015 09:52:31] FynnMcScrapsScooter: some no name Hackers
[30.01.2015 09:52:34] Mr.Yoshida:: Greetings
[30.01.2015 09:52:45] FynnMcScrapsScooter: coud we move off a bit b?
[30.01.2015 09:52:59] Mr.Yoshida:: Move where, exactly?
[30.01.2015 09:53:14] FynnMcScrapsScooter: your friends here are... a nuisance
[30.01.2015 09:53:43] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Well met, Mr Yoshida
[30.01.2015 09:53:49] Mr.Yoshida:: I don't believe they can actually harm you.
[30.01.2015 09:53:58] Mr.Yoshida:: We finally meet, McScrap.
[30.01.2015 09:54:17] Mr.Yoshida:: I had the pleasure of meeting Mr Kurt in Kepler some weeks ago.
[30.01.2015 09:54:54] T&T/John.Kurt: Pleasure you cal it?
[30.01.2015 09:54:55] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Jes, a meeting that cost him his ship. I recall the paperwork, but as long as it only results in parperwork ...
[30.01.2015 09:55:19] T&T/John.Kurt: So we are here ready to talk
[30.01.2015 09:55:32] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Mr. Yoshida : I understand that his last comment before evacuating his ship caused your ire, correct ?
[30.01.2015 09:56:12] Mr.Yoshida:: It is not only that. If we're to have some sort of a partnership, we need to trust your... family members, McScrap.
[30.01.2015 09:56:32] Mr.Yoshida:: And we couldn't trust John, under these circumstances.
[30.01.2015 09:56:53] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Well if Im honest I cant trust them to be polite and talk nice all day round, most are soimple men. Good and faithful jes...
[30.01.2015 09:56:54] Discovery Freelancer is a role-playing server. All attacks must be the result of some form of role play. Shouting "Engaging" or "Halt" is not sufficient.
[30.01.2015 09:57:03] FynnMcScrapsScooter: polite ? Not always
[30.01.2015 09:57:30] T&T/John.Kurt: I for one don't much trust those who want to make a fool out of me
[30.01.2015 09:57:38] FynnMcScrapsScooter: I would fly to hell and back with them, but I prefer to do the diplomatics myself
[30.01.2015 09:57:58] Mr.Yoshida:: Is that so, T&T leader?
[30.01.2015 09:58:07] Mr.Yoshida:: John, do you feel threatened right now?
[30.01.2015 09:58:23] Mr.Yoshida:: If you had come alone here, you'd be in some kind of danger?
[30.01.2015 09:58:40] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Your say, John
[30.01.2015 09:58:55] T&T/John.Kurt: Right now I'm fine no worries
[30.01.2015 09:59:08] Mr.Yoshida:: I am not talking about now. I am talking if you had come alone.
[30.01.2015 09:59:23] Mr.Yoshida:: If McScrap wasn't here, at that very moment.
[30.01.2015 09:59:53] T&T/John.Kurt: It's not about if I feel safe or not It's about you putting me in a situation I do not feel confortable in
[30.01.2015 09:59:54] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Well... you can not be angry if somebody fears the reputation the Hackers have as Asassins, right ?
[30.01.2015 10:00:31] Mr.Yoshida:: Now, now.
[30.01.2015 10:00:38] T&T/John.Kurt: You destroy my ship and expect me to say thank you no doubt, and after that demand trust
[30.01.2015 10:00:52] T&T/John.Kurt: How can I trust you?
[30.01.2015 10:01:18] Mr.Yoshida:: McScrap, has any Lane Hacker harmed you since I told you that no T&T ship will be harmed until John fulfills his task?
[30.01.2015 10:01:37] Mr.Yoshida:: Am I a man that did not hold his word?
[30.01.2015 10:01:40] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Trust is a two way thing, I agree. And exactly the insistence on John comeing to you was the reason I reacted stubbornly
[30.01.2015 10:02:00] FynnMcScrapsScooter: I apologize for being so stubborn, but...
[30.01.2015 10:02:19] FynnMcScrapsScooter: You see : Our code tells us never to surrender a member, and to care for each other
[30.01.2015 10:02:41] FynnMcScrapsScooter: We are no corporate lakeys to be crossed of as expendable
[30.01.2015 10:02:52] FynnMcScrapsScooter: And that is very important to us
[30.01.2015 10:03:10] Mr.Yoshida:: Why would John be surrendered by delivering me a specific amount of cargo?
[30.01.2015 10:03:35] Mr.Yoshida:: I trust it's not different from delivering Premium Scrap to a location, I believe. It is another delivery, of sorts.
[30.01.2015 10:03:50] FynnMcScrapsScooter: We did not know. We vcould only guess. And you tone was... harsh.
[30.01.2015 10:04:22] T&T/John.Kurt: Plus your previous ...actions made us a bit carefull
[30.01.2015 10:04:23] Mr.Yoshida:: My scanners detect that you have the materials, I asked for.
[30.01.2015 10:04:27] FynnMcScrapsScooter: It seemed to us that Johns escape with his evac pod was to be ... reversed
[30.01.2015 10:04:38] Mr.Yoshida:: And not John.
[30.01.2015 10:04:40] FynnMcScrapsScooter: We have added some, for good measure.
[30.01.2015 10:05:10] T&T/John.Kurt: I'm here aren't I? Isn't that enough?
[30.01.2015 10:05:11] Mr.Yoshida:: McScrap didn't I make myself clear that it was a task for John to complete?
[30.01.2015 10:05:12] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Johns ship is not able to cloak, so I transport the items
[30.01.2015 10:05:31] T&T/John.Kurt: We made the journey together
[30.01.2015 10:05:34] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Now we have a very crucial point, Mr. Yoshida :
[30.01.2015 10:05:40] Mr.Yoshida:: Very well. You can send the materials to John and I will take them from him.
[30.01.2015 10:05:58] FynnMcScrapsScooter: We honour the sense of your words. We honour integrity over lawfulness
[30.01.2015 10:06:14] FynnMcScrapsScooter: If you insist that John carry the items, I will pass them over. But why ?
[30.01.2015 10:06:26] FynnMcScrapsScooter: To scan him with them, in a T&T/ ship ?
[30.01.2015 10:06:40] Mr.Yoshida:: Because it was John's task to complete. You hadn't called the Lane Hackers as suckers, McScrap.
[30.01.2015 10:06:54] T&T/John.Kurt: shall we do it? i say yes
[30.01.2015 10:07:06] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Well, he decides to take them...
[30.01.2015 10:07:35] FynnMcScrapsScooter: We will see if this move of trust is ... what it seems
[30.01.2015 10:07:36] T&T/John.Kurt: Lets finish this transaction shall we?
[30.01.2015 10:07:49] Mr.Yoshida:: I have one question before I receive the materials.
[30.01.2015 10:08:02] Mr.Yoshida:: Did you venture yourself John in the Omicrons in order to get them?
[30.01.2015 10:08:12] T&T/John.Kurt: what shall i say?
[30.01.2015 10:08:14] Mr.Yoshida:: Or even that McScrap did it for you?
[30.01.2015 10:08:18] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Say the truth, John
[30.01.2015 10:08:25] T&T/John.Kurt: No, I did not
[30.01.2015 10:08:37] FynnMcScrapsScooter: It is known, and we do not lie
[30.01.2015 10:08:51] T&T/John.Kurt: We aquired them ....from...certain individuals
[30.01.2015 10:09:04] Mr.Yoshida:: The Zoners?
[30.01.2015 10:09:27] T&T/John.Kurt: The persons in question prefer to remain in the dark
[30.01.2015 10:09:31] FynnMcScrapsScooter: No. A single noname pilot sucked into the vortex of the LN rewscuing certain ... papers ?
[30.01.2015 10:09:44] FynnMcScrapsScooter: There was some rumpus a while ago
[30.01.2015 10:09:54] T&T/John.Kurt: Indeed
[30.01.2015 10:10:13] FynnMcScrapsScooter: The pilot docked with us and offered to sell the ship .... including the remains, fearing LSF
[30.01.2015 10:10:23] FynnMcScrapsScooter: we accepted
[30.01.2015 10:10:24] Mr.Yoshida:: I see.
[30.01.2015 10:10:49] T&T/John.Kurt: Good man he is and a good pilot also
[30.01.2015 10:10:52] FynnMcScrapsScooter: the ship was scrapped, the remains stored off limits
[30.01.2015 10:11:07] FynnMcScrapsScooter: so no traces remain
[30.01.2015 10:11:15] Mr.Yoshida:: John I believe there is no more debt to be paid between us anymore.
[30.01.2015 10:11:30] T&T/John.Kurt: Very good then.
[30.01.2015 10:11:37] Mr.Yoshida:: You are in my eyes like any other T&T member. Though have you told papa Fynn the truth?
[30.01.2015 10:11:50] T&T/John.Kurt: Truth?
[30.01.2015 10:11:59..
[30.01.2015 10:28:45] Mr.Yoshida:: Good.
[30.01.2015 10:28:45] 2015-01-30 10:28:34 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:28:45] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Thats why I suggest an easy and fast calculation basis, agreed iupon now
[30.01.2015 10:29:06] 2015-01-30 10:28:54 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:29:06] Mr.Yoshida:: I do not think neither your members nor mine will remember.
[30.01.2015 10:29:25] 2015-01-30 10:29:13 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:29:25] FynnMcScrapsScooter: hm, also true. ZThat keeps space interesting
[30.01.2015 10:29:31] 2015-01-30 10:29:19 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:29:31] T&T/John.Kurt: Lets leave those details for later
[30.01.2015 10:29:37] 2015-01-30 10:29:25 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:29:37] FynnMcScrapsScooter: But the idea is agreed upon
[30.01.2015 10:29:38] 2015-01-30 10:29:26 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:29:38] Mr.Yoshida:: Moving on.
[30.01.2015 10:29:46] 2015-01-30 10:29:35 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:29:46] FynnMcScrapsScooter: ok, well met Mr. Yoshida
[30.01.2015 10:29:55] 2015-01-30 10:29:44 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:29:55] T&T/John.Kurt: can we hurry this up i have some stuff to do
[30.01.2015 10:30:06] 2015-01-30 10:29:55 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:30:06] FynnMcScrapsScooter: We are finished
[30.01.2015 10:30:07] 2015-01-30 10:29:56 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:30:07] Mr.Yoshida:: We meet have a corporate target on a system away but approaching there would make the target flee. But we still need to know
[30.01.2015 10:30:15] 2015-01-30 10:30:04 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:30:15] Mr.Yoshida:: its exact location, in order to intercept it more efficiently.
[30.01.2015 10:30:30] 2015-01-30 10:30:18 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:30:30] Mr.Yoshida:: We want the T&T ships, to provide intel, if requested.
[30.01.2015 10:30:59] 2015-01-30 10:30:47 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:30:59] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Intel is a hot topic.
[30.01.2015 10:31:18] 2015-01-30 10:31:07 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:31:18] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Only if the corporate target is not affiliated witzh T&T,  
[30.01.2015 10:31:29] 2015-01-30 10:31:17 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:31:29] FynnMcScrapsScooter: like BMF or BAF|MN
[30.01.2015 10:31:43] 2015-01-30 10:31:32 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:31:43] Mr.Yoshida:: or [IND] and IC
[30.01.2015 10:31:50] 2015-01-30 10:31:39 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:31:50] FynnMcScrapsScooter: we have friends there and will not turncoat on them
[30.01.2015 10:32:01] 2015-01-30 10:31:49 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:32:01] Mr.Yoshida:: We will not ask you to provide us intel for T&T and Junkers of course, because these are not our targets.
[30.01.2015 10:32:12] 2015-01-30 10:32:00 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:32:12] T&T/John.Kurt: we good with [IND]?
[30.01.2015 10:32:29] 2015-01-30 10:32:17 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:32:29] FynnMcScrapsScooter: We have no dealings with IND , only with TAZ church
[30.01.2015 10:32:40] 2015-01-30 10:32:29 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:32:40] Mr.Yoshida:: So with which groups you're unwilling to provide intel?
[30.01.2015 10:32:40] 2015-01-30 10:32:29 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:32:40] Death: BigTrouble was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[30.01.2015 10:32:42] 2015-01-30 10:32:30 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:32:42] FynnMcScrapsScooter: time is running out...
[30.01.2015 10:32:48] 2015-01-30 10:32:36 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:32:48] Mr.Yoshida:: Except BMF and TAZ?
[30.01.2015 10:33:06] 2015-01-30 10:32:55 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:33:06] FynnMcScrapsScooter: I will send you a poersonel m,essage and we will discuss this on close beam ?
[30.01.2015 10:33:13] 2015-01-30 10:33:02 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:33:13] FynnMcScrapsScooter: //sry, have to leave for work
[30.01.2015 10:34:02] 2015-01-30 10:33:50 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:34:02] Mr.Yoshida:: Very well. The Diplomatic Channel is your best shot McScrap.
[30.01.2015 10:34:11] 2015-01-30 10:33:59 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:34:11] FynnMcScrapsScooter: will do. Well met then
[30.01.2015 10:34:18] 2015-01-30 10:34:07 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:34:18] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Docking for resupply
[30.01.2015 10:34:23] 2015-01-30 10:34:11 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:34:23] Mr.Yoshida:: I hope you have changed your mind about the Lane Hackers, McScrap.
[30.01.2015 10:35:00] 2015-01-30 10:34:49 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:35:00] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Oh... I see you as a very effective and possibly brutal group of professionaly, Mr. Yosjhida. And that is not meant as insult
[30.01.2015 10:35:17] 2015-01-30 10:35:05 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:35:17] FynnMcScrapsScooter: Am I incorrect ?
[30.01.2015 10:35:22] 2015-01-30 10:35:10 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:35:22] T&T/John.Kurt: Lets let time decide if this was a good decision or not
[30.01.2015 10:35:26] 2015-01-30 10:35:14 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:35:26] FynnMcScrapsScooter: true
[30.01.2015 10:35:31] 2015-01-30 10:35:19 SMT  Traffic control alert: FynnMcScrapsScooter has requested to dock
[30.01.2015 10:35:45] 2015-01-30 10:35:33 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:35:45] Death: State|Cpt|Mustang was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
[30.01.2015 10:35:50] 2015-01-30 10:35:38 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:35:50] Mr.Yoshida:: I agree as well. Perhaps in time you can convince John to change his stance.
[30.01.2015 10:36:04] 2015-01-30 10:35:52 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:36:04] Mr.Yoshida:: I still feel some bitter feelings inside him.
[30.01.2015 10:36:22] 2015-01-30 10:36:10 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:36:22] T&T/John.Kurt: I'm a stuborn one , but I can also be objective
[30.01.2015 10:36:28] 2015-01-30 10:36:16 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:36:28] T&T/John.Kurt: When it comes to business
[30.01.2015 10:36:56] 2015-01-30 10:36:45 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:36:56] T&T/John.Kurt: So I really do hope that this will turn into something good for both sides
[30.01.2015 10:37:22] 2015-01-30 10:37:10 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:37:22] Mr.Yoshida:: All this rage inside you, you can actually fuel it to something worthwhile. The Lane Hackers stand for a cause, in case you
[30.01.2015 10:37:24] 2015-01-30 10:37:13 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:37:24] Mr.Yoshida:: don't know.
[30.01.2015 10:37:32] Don't use F1 or disconnect when interacting with other players.
[30.01.2015 10:37:56] 2015-01-30 10:37:44 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:37:56] Death: BigTrouble was divided by zero.
[30.01.2015 10:38:02] 2015-01-30 10:37:51 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:38:02] T&T/John.Kurt: I agree with the first part
[30.01.2015 10:38:17] 2015-01-30 10:38:05 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:38:17] T&T/John.Kurt: We shall see about the second
[30.01.2015 10:38:31] 2015-01-30 10:38:19 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:38:31] T&T/John.Kurt: I'll be heading for a drink now
[30.01.2015 10:38:40] 2015-01-30 10:38:28 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:38:40] T&T/John.Kurt: Glad we got the air cleared
[30.01.2015 10:38:55] 2015-01-30 10:38:44 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:38:55] Mr.Yoshida:: Think about my offer, Mr Kurt. We rarely make such offers.
[30.01.2015 10:39:07] 2015-01-30 10:38:55 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:39:07] Mr.Yoshida:: Have a nice day.
[30.01.2015 10:39:08] 2015-01-30 10:38:57 SMT
[30.01.2015 10:39:08] T&T/John.Kurt: See you soon ? Mr. Yoshida "smiles"
[30.01.2015 10:39:13] 2015-01-30 10:39:01 SMT  Traffic control alert: T&T/John.Kurt has requested to dock



RE: T&T/ Voting logfile - FynnMcScrap - 03-14-2015

There is a new vote to call by all Senior Tinkers :

Sadly both the Character "Colonel Tudor" and the Character "Basti Legionnes" have been missing for a while, due to RL pressure. While we miss them and will greet them back any time, both do have an office in the T&T structure, Tudor filling the role of C1Sec ( Chief of Security ) and Arne filling the role of C1E ( Chief Engineer ).

I am overworking the faction threads soon as our request to gain official faction status and aquire a seperate and workable ID is nearing its timeline in a couple of weeks.
We have to show that we are aware of and fulfilling the obligations of an official faction.
So we need to be up to date.

I hereby call a vote according to our faction rules, enabling all Tinkers Senior Members to cast their vote on these 2 topics : By voting you decide wether or not the current officer is fulfilling his role and will remain in office or if you wish to see a replacement of office in near future.

  1. Vote on status of office : Chief of Security
  2. Vote on status of office : Chief Engineer


The vote is set to last till : Sat. 20th march . Vote can be either open or private , as you prefer. If voted out of office, the members will still remain senior members of T&T and will not have any other disadvantages, but the office will be available for somebody interested in taking up the responsibility of the forum and inGame RP office. Application to the office is possible for all Tinkers members ( senior status not required but appreciated )


  1. Reminder on senior status :
    After a month of flying with T&T/TAG any Tinker member can call for a vote on his status as senior member, tzhus gaining full voting right in decisions such as these. There is no automatic upgrade, as being senior member means : caruing about the faction, and participating in the RP of the faction. We can not force or demand that, but we offer a chance to do so to anybody interested.

  2. Reminder on faction activity :
    We currently are in the process of possibly gaining official faction status. Meaning we can maybe get our own , specific ID ( Junker/FReelancer mix tailored for T&T/ ). Meaning also we NEED activity. Pls : If you have a Freelance ship you use while trading with the Haven, and if you want to support Tinkers Haven and the faction : TAG it, and remember to have 1 hour of faction activity at least per month.

    Thanks , Rob.



Vote is called for

Greets
Rob



RE: T&T/ Voting logfile - Tinker and Transport - 03-21-2015

< vote still open , time of vote ending set to 22.03. AS 822 ( 2015 ) , 12:00 SMT >