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Question to the folks who run the house Governments re: civ carrier - Sabru - 04-26-2015
Update: Short reference list of what whats. Will be updated as the houses update their laws.
- Liberty: Bustard and Corvo legal
- Rheinland: Corvo legal. Bustards require prior permission and registration (see Rheinland laws for full terms and conditions.)
- Kusari: Bustard - Illegal unless prior permission from KNF command is given.
- Bretonia: Legal
- Gallia: Soon™
- OP edited to clearly show only relevant info now.
RE: Question to the folks who run the house Governments re: civ carrier - Big_B - 04-26-2015
My question would be what the Civ Carrier actually is labeled instead of what the Houses think it is.
As what was it planned to be? A Carrier or a Liner?
I want to know if I can used it with a FL ID since it does not permit the use of a Carrier but a Liner
RE: Question to the folks who run the house Governments re: civ carrier - Lythrilux - 04-26-2015
I'd say the Civ Carrier counts as a cap from the inRP PoV of a Government. In it's infocard it's considered a lightweight capital. It can also mount capital ship weaponry.
RE: Question to the folks who run the house Governments re: civ carrier - Crackling - 04-26-2015
What is it considered for IDs?
RE: Question to the folks who run the house Governments re: civ carrier - Sabru - 04-26-2015
for IDs, its considered a liner. that way even FLs can use it.
RE: Question to the folks who run the house Governments re: civ carrier - Sabru - 04-26-2015
(04-26-2015, 03:55 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: I'd say the Civ Carrier counts as a cap. In it's infocard it's considered a lightweight capital. It can also mount capital ship weaponry.
but then we get to the argument of 'are all caps considered warships?"
the infocard says:
"Designed and manufactured to serve in dark corners of space where the closest friendly base is but a memory; the Bustard is a mobile retreat point intended for snubcraft operating away from friendly installations. The Bustard was designed with the intention of avoiding the sheer cost and quantity of resources manufacturing and maintaining a military carrier requires, and so, sacrificing combat capabilities of a warship, its design leans toward availability and ease of maintenance, and so becomes a practical choice of carrier for smaller groups lacking the means of maintaining an actual warship."
it was designed to be an alternate to a warship. doesnt actually say the magic words capital ship
hence the question to the house govs.
RE: Question to the folks who run the house Governments re: civ carrier - Kauket - 04-26-2015
It's a liner.
If it lists it as illegal in the laws, then it's illegal.
It's up to them if they want to update it or not.
RE: Question to the folks who run the house Governments re: civ carrier - Alestone - 04-26-2015
AFC has already been fined by Rheinland for an unlicensed Cap ship in their space...
RE: Question to the folks who run the house Governments re: civ carrier - sindroms - 04-26-2015
As long as it mounts weapons that are above gunboat class, it is a considerable threat. As such- a cap.
It should not enter house space unsupervised.
RE: Question to the folks who run the house Governments re: civ carrier - Stoner_Steve - 04-26-2015
See this is the issue with having different wording for rules and "house laws". The rules say its a Liner, but if the houses say its a Cap Ship who's right, the Dev Team or the Governments ingame?