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RE: A/) - Feedback - Aristaan - 01-16-2017
(01-16-2017, 08:46 PM)Implosion Wrote: Funny, I haven't been roleplaying it like you have.
And no, I will not drop because I do not think it's right.
Also, you keep mentioning Lyth, do you have an obsession with him or something?
Should I cut all ties with a person just because he was banned? Perhaps I should forget he exists as well.
FYI, I know both you and him way before Core, so I'd like to keep my right and talk to whoever I want, despite their status on Discovery, thank you very much.
But in all seriousness, stop using him as an excuse to dodge questions and trying to scare me.
Alright, let me be precise and to the point. If you have a problem with someone is roleplaying, bring it up with them in a constructive way. I'm sick and tired of people attacking this faction because they exercise freedoms (that many other factions have) based off of their own goals. Considering ZoI issues, if you have a problem with capital ships and where they're allowed, I'd ask that you view the appropriate houses' laws (hint: the Omicrons don't have them other than what the self-righteous try to impose). Aux did not spawn from nothing without support or work, a lot of hard work went into it. Just because it isn't what YOU want, doesn't mean you can defecate on it. They got to where they are with due justification and were approved by the required parties. Auxesia actually offers something constructive to the mod and server, something you could just as easily be doing. They have a clear mission, with various means of achieving their goals. Not every Aux ship uses Core tech anyway, because not all members of Aux are Core defects. For a faction with derivatives of Core, there isn't a problem with them using "APX" tech at 100%. What do you expect, the moment they defect their equipment goes from working to broken? It wouldn't make any sense. I'm not going to claim I know 100% of all the RP that went into either side, but it isn't your job to decide what the faction's limitations. It's up to the faction and the admins. Make the difference for the server and reflect on what you can do better rather than attacking people who are actually trying to build something new. I'm tired of the hate; you all poison this server with it. I expect more from an adult here on the server.
Here's something positive:
Thanks to Auxesia, many people have a niche where they can feel they belong. You've reached out to factions that have struggled with activity and purpose and rekindled interactions. Not everyone can play whenever they want, and you offer both paces of interaction. You're active, and you don't wait for things to happen to you. You reach out to factions that don't normally get the attention, and in many cases give incentive for people to come online. The work you've put into the faction may not be 70,000 pages, but it's so much for becoming something from nearly nothing in just about a year. Good work so far, please, keep working and improving.
RE: A/) - Feedback - Implosion - 01-16-2017
Well, pardon me for asking a previous Core leader who was around when the Aux split happened and has more info on things than me.
It is really a big mistake on my side, oh dear what I am going to do now?
As for that quote...it's from Antonio to Lyth. Because Antonio didn't had my skype at the time or simply didn't knew I was leading Core.
How is this even related to my question, again?
@"Erzie"
How is this not constructive feedback? I told them why I think it's wrong, they told me why they think I'm wrong.
As for the 100%, that tech needs materials and facilities to be maintained. They would need specialists, engineers, etc etc.
But apart from IC reasons, there are various balance issues as well.
I'm sure we all know that mixing several factions' tech could result in pretty sweet rides, no?
And last but not least, 100% is often available only to the faction that produces and owns the tech.
RE: A/) - Feedback - Kauket - 01-16-2017
(01-16-2017, 09:30 PM)Implosion Wrote: Well, pardon me for asking a previous Core leader who was around when the Aux split happened and has more info on things that me.
It is really a big mistake on my side, oh dear what I am going to do now?
As for that quote...it's from Antonio to Lyth. Because Antonio didn't had my skype at the time or simply didn't knew I was leading Core.
How is this even related to my question, again?
Quote:or even allowing them to touch upon faction things beyond lore recommendations,
Quote:So drop this nonsense and wait for the statement.
RE: A/) - Feedback - Antonio - 01-16-2017
Yes, I was the one who wrote that. It was to trigger Lyth more than anything, and I frankly don't care whether or not Auxesia has 100% on Core tech. That's between Aux and Core. I do have a problem with one thing though.
(01-16-2017, 07:50 PM)Vendetta Wrote: Handing them over to third parties doesn't grant them that tech cell, but gives them some useless ships/guns they can choose to conduct RP with or not.
This is the worst excuse for sharing foreign tech to a third party I've ever seen. You don't get to share something you don't own "just like that", especially without consulting the actual owner(s), in this case Core. Throwing a "oh but it's useless in PvP so it's ok" argument doesn't make it better.
RE: A/) - Feedback - Vendetta - 01-16-2017
(01-16-2017, 09:47 PM)Antonio Wrote: Yes, I was the one who wrote that. It was to trigger Lyth more than anything, and I frankly don't care whether or not Auxesia has 100% on Core tech. That's between Aux and Core. I do have a problem with one thing though.
(01-16-2017, 07:50 PM)Vendetta Wrote: Handing them over to third parties doesn't grant them that tech cell, but gives them some useless ships/guns they can choose to conduct RP with or not.
This is the worst excuse for sharing foreign tech to a third party I've ever seen. You don't get to share something you don't own "just like that", especially without consulting the actual owner(s), in this case Core. Throwing a "oh but it's useless in PvP so it's ok" argument doesn't make it better.
They aren't being given the tech for any other purpose than to study it. We can't give them the ability to use it and we know we can't.
RE: A/) - Feedback - Kauket - 01-16-2017
Which, again, the tech is intentionally hindered, it's old, it's outdated. We'd never give people top-tier equipment.
Anyway. This thread should be locked for a day or two. Actual concerns can be pm'd to the faction account, or on Skype.
RE: A/) - Feedback - Antonio - 01-16-2017
Alright. I was worried to see Lane Hacker ships flying around with Reavers. Still, notifying the Core would've been the decent thing to do.
RE: A/) - Feedback - Implosion - 01-16-2017
Indeed, lock the thread when there's an issue and unlock it when it's forgotten. Touche, Auxesia, top notch problem solving techniques.
I'm still willing to discuss this over skype and find a solution, by the way. I always was. But I was never approached by you.
RE: A/) - Feedback - Kauket - 01-16-2017
(01-16-2017, 10:02 PM)Implosion Wrote: Indeed, lock the thread when there's an issue and unlock it when it's forgotten. Touche, Auxesia, top notch problem solving techniques.
I'm still willing to discuss this over skype and find a solution, by the way. I always was. But I was never approached by you.
[19:20:36] Implosion: And until I get a solid from the actual dev that said that, I'm not going to stop looking out of Core tech being misused.
Wait for your statement. I've said this 3 times now. You're pushing it when you don't have to. Clearly you don't show patience either.
RE: A/) - Feedback - Vendetta - 01-16-2017
(01-16-2017, 10:02 PM)Implosion Wrote: Indeed, lock the thread when there's an issue and unlock it when it's forgotten. Touche, Auxesia, top notch problem solving techniques.
I'm still willing to discuss this over skype and find a solution, by the way. I always was. But I was never approached by you.
You were given all the answers to the questions you asked. The only issues being made is because the answers aren't what you want them to be. That's a problem with you, not us.