(02-07-2017, 05:21 PM)Liberty Mining and Fabrication Wrote: Check the months before that. Mid-January to February are the months where the internal dissaray began and activity came to a halt.
Mid January to February are not.. months. Activity can only really be gauged in terms of a month, and as an outsider what I saw was a solid 20 days in January. That's something to be proud of.
(02-07-2017, 05:21 PM)Liberty Mining and Fabrication Wrote: DSE was Ranked 46th on activity before I re-joined somewhere in late summer ?
That's a little cringy, man. As much as I can respect someone who gets things done, I can respect someone quietly confident about it a lot more. Nobody is backing you into a corner here, but that's the way you're responding.
(02-07-2017, 05:21 PM)Liberty Mining and Fabrication Wrote: I am well within my rights to refuse to share the skype log of the conversation between me and Alte to trench anyone's thirst for drama. As you can see we are more then willing to discous any and all questions, besides the "Why did you argue" part, since I feel it is a personal matter and refuse to talk about it publicly out of respect for myself and Alte.
I don't recall asking for skype logs? Asking for skype logs would not only be unprofessional and out of bounds as a non-faction member, but would also imply inherent distrust towards you - whoever you are, anyway - and your members. I'd just be interested in hearing how you and yours came to the conclusion that you'd be better off working on your own.
(02-07-2017, 05:21 PM)Liberty Mining and Fabrication Wrote: Quick edit: I was refering to Alte's heart-breaking post about back stabbing and traitors that he posted before he said that he needed a break. So I am not the one that raised the issue, let it be very clear.
Let's try to avoid emotionally charged leaving threads as context for anything, shall we?
'Twas a missunderstanding, we want your questions and feedback and we value it, I didn't make it clear enough in the original post, we just don't want to talk about the "Why did you leave" part that everyone is so interested about. Please let us continue this in our Feedback thread that I've set up due to popular demand. And if I may ask a moderator to clear this thread so it can stay Info & Recruitment ?
(02-07-2017, 05:43 PM)Liberty Mining and Fabrication Wrote: 'Twas a missunderstanding, we want your questions and feedback and we value it, I didn't make it clear enough in the original post, we just don't want to talk about the "Why did you leave" part that everyone is so interested about. Please let us continue this in our Feedback thread that I've set up due to popular demand. And if I may ask a moderator to clear this thread so it can stay Info & Recruitment ?
To clear things out I've read the "20 days" as "20 hours" of activity, so I got in super-defense mode thinking you were calling us out for not being active enough in DSE so what are we even doing here. I apologize for somewhat an emotional response, and jumping on conclusions.
(02-07-2017, 04:50 PM)Liberty Mining and Fabrication Wrote:
(02-07-2017, 03:26 PM)Traxit Wrote: How do you want to see this group in a couple of months? (active, organized, doing progressive roleplay, etc, etc.)
Why separate from DSE and create an unofficial group?
Do you have different goals from DSE even though you're both for-profit-ore-hauling factions?
What will you do with officialdom if you ever get it?
These are crucial questions that need answers to determine if this group you're trying to create is going to be an unnecessary and useless rival for a faction that doesn't need two groups for itself.
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Well of course we want all that and more. Our short term goals include setting up the proper story and backing it up in-game, doing contracts with shipping companies to justify our growth, then once we are somewhat established, RP our way into cloak production by building a base.
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We're not breaking new ground by doing this. I do not wish to work "for" or "with" my former faction head directly any more, but I enjoy this play style hence why I was in DSE originally and did well there. And no fuel on fire on the drama train, hence why I left a part of your question out.
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Of course, setting up our own base, hunting contracts more aggressively, different approach to leading a faction, not out to get DSE contracts on gate and lane maintenance but focusing on production and ore extraction for other companies, hence more activity all around. You are making it sound like for-profit-ore-hauling factions are something to be ashamed of ? In my eyes it's the backbone of activity in disco that many things revolve around.
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I have explained the company goals in very rough terms in the post above.
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"an unnecessary and useless rival" ?
Because healthy competition between corporations in the biggest house in Sirius doesn't make any sense ?
Well Tell Sindroms that, since he obviously got the wrong idea that "corporate warfare and direct competition" is something that we are in dire need off here in disco.
Honestly I could have answered some of those questions by just asking "Why are there any other unlawful groups in Sirius other then the Outcasts?"
However I urge you to ask as many questions as you like and tell me if you see something that you have questions about, please do keep in mind that we are just eager to get back into the game, for now we are just your every-day unofficial faction trying to find its place, nothing more nothing else. We haven't had years yet to establish ourselves, we had hours, and we are trying to write up more RP info on it as we speak.
Satisfactory answers. Guess my first impression on you guys was completely wrong. As to your answer about your rivalism, I always think that NPC factions shouldn't have more than one group, considering the activity of our server, it'll be much better if both or more groups unite, unless there is a clear divide in goals and ideology of both groups. But after reading your answer I guess you're right. Corporate competition in the most active house in the server won't be a waste of efforts to boost up activity.
Good luck out there in space.
P.S: "Why are there any other unlawful groups in Sirius other then the Outcasts?"
Different ideologies, ZoI, equipment, alliances and enemies. A server focused on roleplay can give every NPC faction its own interest.