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JhohDoe has been sanctioned for:
Quote:5.9 Disconnecting from the server in a PvP fight to escape, as well as in any other situation that involves player interaction, is not allowed. If you lose server connection during a player interaction, you should get back in game quickly to continue the interaction, with the other player's permission. If that is not possible, then post on the forums and PM the players involved.
Consequences: Never, EVER, F1 out of a fight. It's expensive and annoying. Fined and a sanction notice is in your hold!
If you post in this sanction and are not directly involved or a leader of the accused person's faction be advised
that you are consenting to be subjected to the reprisal of my choice which may involve in game repercussions
up to a ban.
Blaming members of your immediate family, neighbours, friends, pets, and assorted Orcs, Trolls and any other
legendary creatures may result in the use of Admin Right #CTE 750AE
I did not f1. Was a connection lost. You can ask ceridwen and cardweenan i was with them. Only a few secconds offline, and nobody was interacting with me.
I knew it.... problems with that bad-mannered player. I saved that screenshoots too. I knew it. Look your PM.
Explanation:
I started to fight with that guy. After +- 15minutes fighting i said "stop, we will never end". 15 minutes fighting. Dont think i was telling him "i will f1 and this will not end". 15 minutes and he cant shooot my hull and i cant shoot his hull.
If you see my bots and bats not complete on screenshot is cause i stopped to ask him to go. Real life.
That guy didnt respond, and keep shooting.
I still trying to talk with him like 2 or 3 min. Ship stopped and asking. No respopnse. He shooting me.
I still trying.... 4 times saying words like "please, i have to go" "im asking you" "please"... guy says nothing.
What must i do? I really have to go, i tryed to explain it but that guy didnt response. I asked him 4 times, then i say "sorry i have to go" and disconnect.
I cant say is not my fault, if you think i deserve a sanction is ok.
But i have to express my protest on that bad-mannered player. His char was not a nomad or phantom or something like that. He could write, but maybe nobody teached him to be polite.
I think that behavior is not for a rp server, and maybe you must include "bad manners" on rules. Really surprised, i got a sanction for trying to speak with another player, that is bad-mannered and didnt want to respond. RP server???
Wait a sec DocHolliday.... there is a rule i see.... is this a rule???? or only "general terms and conditions"?
1. General Terms & Conditions
0.0 Be excellent to one another. Consider the people around you. Keep fair play in mind. It's a game and nothing is gained, or lost, save the experience. Credits can be re-earned. Ammunition replenished. If you become infuriated step away. If you make a mistake apologize. If you wish to remain in system after you die, or after someone has moved away, simply ask.
Fair play, a level head and consideration for others.
If this is a rule, i have to ask you to punish that guy too because:
1- Consider the people arround you
He didnt. If a guy is telling you "i have to go" the less you can do is respond "no". This is a rp server. Or no? Consideration to the other player? None.
2- Fair play.
He didnt. If a guy is telling you "i have to go" and you dont want to respond waiting f1 to report... fair play??? Like a knife on the back. Good behavior indeed.
If is not a rule, well, i think must be. Being polite is a basic rule on all servers i´ve played. Education is the key. Is no good to allow people to ignore players like this on a RP server.
As the other party in this sanction, I feel I need to respond:
1) There was plenty of correct RP prior to the beginning of combat. My law enforcement character came across your Ptrans in mid pirate of a third party between Houston and the NY jumpgate. I asked you to desist and stop, you told me no and continued firing on your prey. I then fired on you and you fled with me chasing. After a little more RP you finally stopped running and combat began.
From the point combat began I was willing to respond to any RP you made but you made none. Telling me the fight was taking too long and that you had other things to do and that you needed to F1 are entirely OORP and if I was to respond, I would be OORP like you.
It is not bad-mannered in my opinion to stay within RP whilst in combat.
Tell me, if you're pirating someone and they don't want to pay up or be destroyed and they tell you their pizza has arrived and they F1, would you be happy with that?
If we all F1 when ever we feel like it there is no point playing an RP server.
' Wrote:As the other party in this sanction, I feel I need to respond:
1) There was plenty of correct RP prior to the beginning of combat. My law enforcement character came across your Ptrans in mid pirate of a third party between Houston and the NY jumpgate. I asked you to desist and stop, you told me no and continued firing on your prey. I then fired on you and you fled with me chasing. After a little more RP you finally stopped running and combat began.
Im not talking about how that situation started. Was a correct RP indeed. Both sides, i think.
' Wrote:From the point combat began I was willing to respond to any RP you made but you made none. Telling me the fight was taking too long and that you had other things to do and that you needed to F1 are entirely OORP and if I was to respond, I would be OORP like you.
First. i didnt tell you nothing. I ASKED you with some "please" and "sorry" A little difference.
You made none. None????? How can you say none???
"we will never end"
"i have to go"
"stop a moment... i have to go, sorry"
"this fight will never end"
"ok?"
"please i have to go... sorry"
These are RP demands. Sorry, but is so hard to write /t // *question i made 4 times* if you dont want to stop and talk with me.
I was stopped and not firing you. YOu keep firing on me.
But there is more.....
*t //im asking you*
*// tell me*
Then, i decided to f1, and my last chat was:
*//sorry but i have things to do. next time please respond if anyone is talking with you. be polite.*
Total: 9 "nones"
You responses: ZERO
' Wrote:It is not bad-mannered in my opinion to stay within RP whilst in combat.
Bad-mannered is when anyone ask you 9 times begging you "please" and telling you "sorry" and you dont want to respond. You can at least say "no".
And as i say above, i asked you 2 times OORP. On my opinion yes, bad-mannered.
' Wrote:Tell me, if you're pirating someone and they don't want to pay up or be destroyed and they tell you their pizza has arrived and they F1, would you be happy with that?
Happened to me 1 time. I didnt open fire. I told that guy "ok, but next time you will have to pay double".
Be polite my friend. This is a game and everybody have to play in real life too. Rule 0.0 "Consider the people around you". You didnt.
You waited f1 to report, knowing that i asked you to leave. No fair play.
And i wasnt waiting pizza. I had to go to work.
' Wrote:If we all F1 when ever we feel like it there is no point playing an RP server.
Of course. But some times you have to go. Everybody, not only me and this happen all time on all RP servers on any game. Never happened to you?
Is not when ever i feel, i asked you "please" and "sorry"... 9 times. Didnt you understand it? You need // to know?
Remember:
*t //im asking you*
*// tell me*
*//sorry but i have things to do. next time please respond if anyone is talking with you. be polite.*
I've said my piece and in my opinion you don't understand RP half as well as you understand making excuses but I'm not an admin and I don't want to turn this thread into a personal argument. The rules are clear so I'll leave it to the admins and respect their decision.