It's not much of a revision but rather adding something to the ID shipwise.
It's not the rules, it's not the bonuses (however is some way it is about bonuses in a long run). Knowing that Miner ID is bound only to Sunburst - which cannot really be customized due to lack of interchangeable engine and is overall more a n00blet ship - I would like to propose such a thing:
Extend list of freighters which Miner ID can use for mining with Kestrel, Anki and Dromedary.
I explain such a proposition with all three being generic ships that you don't see that often. Also, Sunburst is pretty boring, Miner ID doesn't have great bonuses but is a generic ID, so why not to give them ability to have additional three generic freighters to mine?
It's not a big request, which would make Miner ID to be more attractive.
I also think that the Miner ID should not be made more attractive. It does not add anything to the game in terms of lore, interesting roleplay... it is just generic and therefore does not "deserve" to be cooler than the dedicated mining factions that come with advantages, but also with disadvantages.
(02-09-2017, 11:40 PM)Gerhard Wolf Wrote: The miner id is just ingame to give newbies a quickstart for mining, there is no need to give it any other ships.
By the way, it has almost a no dock to every other mining faction and only 2.0 multiplier except for helium.
There isn't any reason not to either.
(02-10-2017, 03:38 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: I also think that the Miner ID should not be made more attractive. It does not add anything to the game in terms of lore, interesting roleplay... it is just generic and therefore does not "deserve" to be cooler than the dedicated mining factions that come with advantages, but also with disadvantages.
It's a 2.0 mining multiplier, I sincerely hope you don't expect that to interfere with IMG.
My reasoning behind such a proposal are three facts:
1. Sunburst is a very boring ship, which cannot have it's engine (or even lights, I believe) be changed.
2. Kestrel and Dromedary alone are ships used mostly by independents.
3. Miner ID is said to affiliate themselves mostly with Zoners - who sell both these ships.
I can agree for not adding Anki into the list, yet whilst Anki is technically Renzu creation - which is owned by IC - it is also free access ship. However, we could ignore that ship more in favour of two other ones, which are actual free-blueprint within lore.
Edit:
I could never understand why Miner ID cannot be fused with Freelancer ID. The faction can fend away illegal miners by sore roleplay, even FR5 them. Also, as Durandal said, the multipliers are so bad they aren't much of a problem for specialized "main" mining factions. Thirdly, why rephack to unlawfuls as well? Zoners can also be pirated - and like in case of mining factions, interested parties can simply fend off people they don't want, or simply use them. Being white doesn't mean you cannot be pirated.
(02-11-2017, 05:26 PM)Bloodl1ke Wrote: Can't miner ID use the Hegemon? I swear I saw a miner ID Hegemon...
The issue isn't usage of Hegemon (which is fat ship which is a terror to fly around asteroid fields), but problem of only one freighter being assigned to mining. Sunburst is neat looking, but boring ship - since light and engines cannot be changed (while npc IMG fly Sunbursts with PTE engines). I would be more in favour of adding Dromedary and Kestrel as two additional miner freighters because the ID is not as specialized as IMG or DSE, having their own respective faction/house freighters.
I can't see why unaffiliated Miners wouldn't use Dromedary or (heavily unused) Kestrel for stealing fully legit mining, because they usually (according to ID description) work for Zoners who sell both Kestrel and Dromedary at their bases.
However, I also have other idea (which I need forward to admins via proper PM):
Miner ID is used by no one but noobs and doesn't really have big bonuses, so why not to fuse it up with Freelancer ID (which doesn't have rephacks) but REMOVE ability to mine on Hegemon/Kamome, forcing Freelancers to mine in freighters without ability to gain money. It makes more sense for unaffiliated miner to use small ships and fill other vessels rather than moving ores on their own with Kamome or Hegemon. The latter is actually a huge vessel, which construction is expensive within lore.
So, why not?
Summary of that idea:
1. Remove Miner ID completely out of the mod, it's useless.
2. Give Freelancer ID bonuses of Miner ID, they aren't big.
3. Restrict ID to mine in Kestrel, Dromedary and Sunburst only.