(01-20-2015, 03:45 AM)boxcartenant Wrote: What if my RP character is a nomad who aspires to slowly develop a better reputation with other factions, and then attain a foreign ID? And what if my non-RP agenda is to fly nomad ships all over the galaxy and do missions for other factions as such, or to be a pirate in a nomad ship?
I've done worse things with the concept, so I am sure you can go for it as long as it is more or less plausible.
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Quote:I don't think a Nomad would ever want to 'help' another human, unless perhaps under a circumstance of leading them astray to get something out of it.
This kind of closed-mindedness is probably the reason they've been at war with humans for so long without even a cease-fire.
They are at war with humans because Sirius is theirs. Now, you wouldn't welcome an intruder, taking over 90% of your own house with the intention to live there and shoot you when they see you, with open arms and a wide smile, would you?
Nomads are aggressive by nature, since that's how they were created. Also, they blue up Sol, the extended Intro is considered canon in discovery AFAIK.
Sorry for interruption, but since Nomads began infiltrating humanity, wouldn't they slowly make some research over human's behaviour and conclude some information about them? Even the most brutal and destructive race (which became rather covert with its operations) should make conclusions, if it was almost destroyed up by a way inferior race.
You are making an assumption from a human point of view.
We dont know how nomads "tick". We can only assume that interfering with nomads will make them gain certain human type behavior,since this is how humans "tick". When Humanity faced the nomads,humanity dealt with them "the nomad way".
What seems logical for humans doesnt even have to make sense to nomads,and the other way around.We simply know way too little about them,and we assume a great deal.
(01-20-2015, 01:33 PM)Mímir Wrote: Aren't nomads biological weapons, created by a masturrace, set to destroy? Wasn't that the root of their demise in the SP campaign?
Yes,that is true i believe.
They also happen to "evolve",since "continual service improvement" was built into their "code".
Quote:What if my RP character is a nomad who aspires to slowly develop a better reputation with other factions, and then attain a foreign ID? And what if my non-RP agenda is to fly nomad ships all over the galaxy and do missions for other factions as such, or to be a pirate in a nomad ship? What if a pirate commandeers a nomad ship from within a nomad base (by barging in guns blazing and offering to exchange a fair sum of money for it)?
Especially that your Nomad ID specifically says that you cannot dock anywhere except on Nomad bases and cannot leave the Omicrons.
Quote:This kind of closed-mindedness is probably the reason they've been at war with humans for so long without even a cease-fire.
They were infiltrating humans, studying them, studying Sirius using human bodies, minds, and technology, for many years. Perhaps for centuries. In the beginning, Nomads had little knowledge of humans, DKV, Sirius, and even of themselves. In Omicron Alpha, they were living peacefully next to the Outcasts. In Omicron Gamma, they were attacked, but didn't retaliate on a larger scale, either because they couldn't, or because they didn't feel threatened enough. They turned very aggressive when they found out that humans discovered an active DKV artifact, which could potentially have granted them entry to other DKV worlds or destroy them. This time, the nomads wanted to beat the humans to the DKV relics.
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They are at war with humans because Sirius is theirs. Now, you wouldn't welcome an intruder, taking over 90% of your own house with the intention to live there and shoot you when they see you, with open arms and a wide smile, would you?
They think it's theirs. One can't really justify possession of sector to any one species living in it. After studying and making use of human assets for a while, they decided they wanted to gain mastery over them.
Quote:Nomads are aggressive by nature, since that's how they were created. Also, they blue up Sol, the extended Intro is considered canon in discovery AFAIK.
Every life form is aggressive to something. Bears are aggressive towards humans, humans are aggressive towards cows, cows are aggressive towards grass, grass aggressively takes up space in your mom's vegetable garden. Aggression and destruction is a tool that life uses all the time. There is no reason for the nomads to feel any more compassion towards humans than you feel compassion for the tree that was used to build your desk.
Quote:Sorry for interruption, but since Nomads began infiltrating humanity, wouldn't they slowly make some research over human's behaviour and conclude some information about them? Even the most brutal and destructive race (which became rather covert with its operations) should make conclusions, if it was almost destroyed up by a way inferior race.
Indeed, they did study humans with great interest. Whether humans are inferior to nomads is debatable. Nomads have built less technology by themselves than humans, their minds are possibly less creative and less evolved. After all, they're just a bunch of virus-like machines. Possibly, they don't even have minds of their own, and needed a human host mind to become self-aware.
Quote:Aren't nomads biological weapons, created by a masturrace, set to destroy? Wasn't that the root of their demise in the SP campaign?
They were created as tools used for genetic engineering. At some point, they became self-aware.
Quote:Yes,that is true i believe.
They also happen to "evolve",since "continual service improvement" was built into their "code".
And they have used humans to make a leap forward in evolution. Like every life form, self-preservation and self-improvement became their driving force.
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Are nomads self-aware? I thought the point was that they didn't have a 'self', and that they were connected to the mindshare in a traditional 'hive mind' sense?
I imagine them more like a swarm thingy,BUT according to what is written on the infocard of the Nomad morph, self-awareness is not to be ruled out because morph are supposed to "learn and develop".
Maybe they "begin" as self-aware,and as they develop they integrate more and more into the mindshare giving away the "i" for the the "we".
Im just speculating here.
The one thing that makes my brain hurts is why they blew up sol BEFORE the sleeprships arrived in Sirius.Maybe we have it all wrong.Maybe Earth was infected long before the Alliance - Coalition war started?
Maybe that is Why the war started?
maybe,maybe,maybe...we will never know.
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