(11-14-2012, 12:46 AM)AeternusDoleo Wrote: A freelancer might get himself a fighter or bomber... maybe even a gunboat, but military grade hardware designed for heavy combat?
And yes, I realise this will screw over some factions...
Then why not have different standards to demonstrate the difference between factions and freelancers?
Actually, that question doesn't even need to be asked, as the Freelancer ID can't use anything above Gunboats anyway.
Freelancer in this contact meaning "person outside of the tech owning faction(s)". IE anyone who that tech isn't specifically made for. Kusari navy tech isn't made for Rheinlanders. Rheinland tech isn't made for Kusari. I can't really see a reason for navies to be using eachother's tech in-lore... keeping infrastructure for technology that widely differs from your own is expensive.
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I assume there would still be a precedent to change them through a request between official factions - for example IMG still uses Colonial military tech since they made some of it, and Liberty has just given a lot of ships to Bretonia.
As BDM's lead I support the removal of at the VERY least Kusari Capital ships and Capguns from Rheinland ID's, Rheinland has a GOOD Cap-Line and excellent Capital Ship weaponry, there is simply no need to borrow/steal from Kusari when we have tech that does the same job but fits lore better.
Got to say, here I agree with Bindo. I think it is within the realm of rp that Kusari and Rhienland might share some tech, therefore, I would be against restricting the rights of people to follow that type of rp path. I dont think official factions should be the sole arbiter of if tech should be shared or not. Seeing what I have seen over my time here, I dont trust official factions to restrict tech use, and I dont trust official factions to not trade tech, and then tell their indies they cannot share tech. Official factions should not be able to squash legitimate roleplay from their indies.
(11-14-2012, 07:06 PM)DarthBindo Wrote: I never thought too much freedom could be a bad thing.
I think you missed a lesson in life here.
What do you think would happen if the laws of society were removed, to give people more "Freedom"?
Chaos would ensue, as people do whatever the hell they like. With no rules and no boundries the only thing stopping people from doing what they like is "morality", and we know how little many people seem to care about morality.
A good example would be, imagine what would happen if one day the admins turned around and said "Right, server rules? gone. Do what you like."
How chaotic do you think things would become, within hours? Or even minuites?
There needs to be rules and boundries otherwise there is only chaos.
Some freedom is good, people enjoy freedom. The trick is finding the boundries between enough freedom for people to enjoy, but not so much freedom that things get out of hand.
A slippery slope, my good sir, does not a solid foothold for an argument make.
No one is saying get rid of all the rules.
But up until now, there has been little to no fuss over the new tech system and a SINGLE KUSARI BATTLECRUISER in the hands of rheinlanders with actual solid roleplay behind it is not something to go crying broke over.
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(11-14-2012, 09:33 PM)DarthBindo Wrote: A slippery slope, my good sir, does not a solid foothold for an argument make.
No one is saying get rid of all the rules.
But up until now, there has been little to no fuss over the new tech system and a SINGLE KUSARI BATTLECRUISER in the hands of rheinlanders with actual solid roleplay behind it is not something to go crying broke over.
Battleship. They also have a KUBC now as well.
But I wouldn't say its just that, more that its the latest in a long line and people are starting to get frustrated by it.
All my LN ID'd ships are LN ships. I would have said the same thing had it been the BH reqesting LN nerfed, since its just as stupid to see LN BHG Battleships and cruisers flying around. About the only ones that possibly make sense is BAF using LN ships (BAF stuggleing to build ships, allied with LN against common foe, etc.) and LN Osiris (Originally LN ship, stolen by Order, couldn't have taken ALL the records for it, etc.)
P.S. My examples were of the extreams. Obviously I'm not suggesting we remove all the rules, that'd be like shooting yourself in the foot.