(04-19-2014, 01:30 PM)Echo 7-7 Wrote: Official Faction IDs are Admin business, but the request seems needless given that the AI faction has no proper allies.
Dont you see the circle? If we cant help allies why should they take us as allies?
Because allies are not only based on military alliance. There is a whole lot more to being allies. Trade, technology exchange, etc.
This and last request only takes into account PvP. That's why community sees this as a step towards possible abuse.
I talked allies in general. Contains all possibilitys. Now lets see an exampel. I have an trade allied. Now he want me to escort him. I cant do because if he get attacked i cant help him.
Get some allies. Provide a justification ad to why this change should be applied.
And if this change were to go through, it should go on the official faction ID and stay on said ID.
This is a misunderstanding and this threat is obsolete...to punraz honest he must mislooked a bit to the standard ID. Our Id matches the current purpose perfectly, when we are going to have allies...it can be adjusted really quick.
I think it was meant ships that he is individually 'allied' with based on personal repuation. So if he had good rep with a Zoner, who was under attack by pirate(s), he could jump in and help the Zoner anywhere.
Perhaps you need a 'can defend ships of a friendly affiliation' in there. Everyone says go make some allies, but it'll never happen if nothing can develop in game.
'Anywhere' might be pushing it for AI though, cuz then AI will be everywhere in Sirius looking for fights to jump in on. Thats what Freelancers are for. Within your ZOI and systems without a jumpgate, doesn't seem too unreasonable. Besides if its in a system with no jump gate you can attack whoever you deem it necessary at the time anyways. If you wanna help out some folks under those circumstances, might be good basis for forming alliances. Maybe 'can defend ships of friendly affiliation within the Sigmas and Omegas only'. Something along those lines?
Also I have another idea... I'm seeing lately stuff like "Anyone interested to escort Vessel?" and attacks... So I wonder if Admins would allow the AIs to post it on the forum so people actually see which player he's defending or which person he's attacking, so basicly AIs have to RP it on forum before they can engage in a system containing a Jumpgate...
If not at least allow them to defend the allied ship which they will mention inside their RP post, I think why not? Let's see how this will evolve and if people just play nice I think this can be continued.
As a solution attacks on a System containing a Jumpgate would need to be RPed on forums, something like the PoBs currently have, you have to RP it on the forum before you can engage a Core 2 PoB. Here you'd have to RP to attack in that specific system you're engaging, to engage there even though it has a JG containing. I think its a fair solution. Of course you'd have to RP the raid again and again, so RPing it only once and attacking inside the system forever doesn't count. The RP just counts for the current day its meant to be.
(04-21-2014, 11:50 AM)Snake Wrote: Also I have another idea... I'm seeing lately stuff like "Anyone interested to escort Vessel?" and attacks... So I wonder if Admins would allow the AIs to post it on the forum so people actually see which player he's defending or which person he's attacking, so basicly AIs have to RP it on forum before they can engage in a system containing a Jumpgate...
If not at least allow them to defend the allied ship which they will mention inside their RP post, I think why not? Let's see how this will evolve and if people just play nice I think this can be continued.
As a solution attacks on a System containing a Jumpgate would need to be RPed on forums, something like the PoBs currently have, you have to RP it on the forum before you can engage a Core 2 PoB. Here you'd have to RP to attack in that specific system you're engaging, to engage there even though it has a JG containing.
+1 thats a good way to prevent lolwuttery...but still AI RP is not famous and the most members of the community allways try to pull it down ooRP and don't respect it inRP. Means serious RP is allways and ever really difficult and often frustrating...Even it is an official faction like the Consensus.