(08-14-2014, 04:05 PM)Snak3 Wrote: I am more concerned about any regular person suiciding than any celebrity. I don't see "RIP" threads for suicided teens who were harassed in school or students that got fed up with stress in university or rape victims. And you know what, they matter more, because they are just as regular as we are, the common folk that populate most of the earth.
I dont know them, why should I grief for them? I've watched movies and interviews with Williams, he is one of my favorite actors. You could say that his fans knew him and if that is so, it is up to us if we are going to grief for an actor we loved or for some kid with damaged psychic. Sorry but you comment is wrong.
you completely missed the point of what snak3 said, and you cant see it, i agree with him
yes mr williams was well known, and millions knew of him, but its the millions more that are not seen or heard, that go through the same thing, and do the same thing as he did, no one hears of them
Whatever he is, a celebrity or an unknown, doesn't matter here, and that is not the reason people mourn his loss. Many people know him and that is the reason why they mourn his loss. You know what? People mourn the loss of who they know, be it personally or via any other means.
Some random teen, I don't know him. Maybe if I had known about his tragic death, I might send my prayers to his family and friends. The celebrity status is a reason why their death reaches to a lot of people and they mourn. The same people feel bad if a random teen's death is published in a newspaper.
Guys, this really isn't the place to argue semantics of should we mourn more for a celebrity or a random. If you feel the need to argue about it, please take it to skype or something so we can leave a RIP thread clean and unlocked.
(08-14-2014, 06:48 PM)Tonto1911 Wrote: Guys, this really isn't the place to argue semantics of should we mourn more for a celebrity or a random. If you feel the need to argue about it, please take it to skype or something so we can leave a RIP thread clean and unlocked.
Going to post a comment I made on Facebook to a friend whom had the same view as Snak3 and such (Context about the pornstar was one was severely beaten up recently, but no news on her well-being, and then it was brought up about Police Officers or soldiers being shot)
Me - "The difference is that, while those people are no less different as a human, and deserve our sorrow, Robin Williams was someone whom has been around in people's lives for years. The pornstar has not been around for 20+ years entertaining people (Giggity), the Police officer has not directly affected us, and same with a soldier fighting (Yes his efforts do protect us, but often times we don't even know the names when tragedy strikes). Just because we may not publicly grieve for those people, but we do someone else, does not mean we should feel guilty about mourning someone whom was an inspiration for many, and someone whom brought joy to many lives. Yes it is sad to see others hurt/beaten/die. It's tragic, and anyone saying it isn't is 100% wrong. But those who touch our lives directly, or at least in a more direct way, are going to have more of an impact.
tl;dr - Don't make people feel guilty for mourning someone."
Me - "Same thing happened when Paul Walker died. I get that they are actors and most of us haven't met them personally. But ****, if I feel sorrow for losing someone whom brought me joy in my life, I shouldn't be made to feel bad about it or guilty."
Friend - "People freaked out over Robin Williams dying because it honestly scared the **** out of people. It made them realize you really never know how your life will end. You can have it all, be the smartest most kind, funny, rich, etc. person and still be so unbelievably sad and alone that you take your own life. No one talks about depression, and it really is a silent killer. This opened a lot of people's eyes. Also, you know most people get their news from social media..social media doesn't really highlight the so called "important" news. That's why no one knows about the stories you mentioned. But either way, like [Finn] said, you shouldn't make people feel guilty for mourning."
tl;dr - One more time for emphasis: Don't be that guy and make me feel bad for mourning someone.
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I was on vacation when I heard this news. It was a rough day as I had been talking about my father who is dying of Alzheimers with my son.
I will miss Robin. He was genuinely one of the funniest men and one the most talented and diverse actors I have ever known.
I want everyone here to take something away from his death and that is the realism of depression. I have spent the better part of two years fighting my own way out of it. It is very real, People, and it is a very dark place and while so many fight through it alone, no one should have to.
If you are one of those of whom I'm speaking about and you know who you are, please find some help. I don't want to read about someone's passing here because of depression. There is help.