(02-04-2015, 12:25 AM)Pancakes Wrote: The issue is that hampering the damage would affect ALL lfs, even the bigger ones - thus making what little good can come out of them begone. Hence why I suggested that the smaller LFs would be nerfed down to 3 guns since the current LF guns are doing insane damage output, 2 hullbusters is more than a plenty on LF to make a dent, let it have anther 2 debs and gg shields too.
Again, what I am saying that a copy-cat of Liberator is bad. I wouldn't mind to give a try to a Liberator-like only with 3 guns, so then it will do what Dii suggested - have the ability to poke VHFs. Poke, not have a near equal DPS with just half the guns.
The bigger LFs need to be rebalanced especially, not by giving them (even) higher damage, but by scaling them down and making them turn faster. You know, by turning them into actual light fighters. What good is any ship that dies to a single MR when it has almost the same attack surface as a VHF?
I wouldn't mind that. But that qualifies to about 80% of the LFs out there, need someone to go ahead and do the job. Plenty of them won't do with just a scale down and will need to be remodeled too.
Poor Dii, he submits a model and it turns into a massive argument about the role of Light Fighters.
Like I told him I love the model, magnificent thing.
The Piranha/Sea Serpent model isn't balanceable as an LF, it's simply too big. If anything it and the perhaps equally crappy Hammerhead could be split into regular/crappy 4 gun dual CD heavy fighters.
Personally, I'm a huge fan of the Sea Serpent. My short stint with it was a massacre of bombers and fighters. Do you know how obscene it is to hit from the front with its strafing speed?
Keep/make it as agile liberator, give it a little more armor/core/a fifth gun, and call it day. Or leave it as is, the Serpent is great
Looks like a Liberator made a baby with the sea serpent, i love it!
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Well, lets see, there are only 11 sea serpents in existance, and i own one of them. after how many years of the MkII fighters?
the original piranha model is a pile of crap honestly. it looks great but in the current balance model is an extremely poor choice of ship to use in a fight.
also, if nobody agrees this should replace the current bounty hunter light fighter i'll just SRP it for myself, cuz i wont be deliberately gimping myself by flying a sea serpent.
As former member of BHG 22nd, I can confirm that Serpent is/was good only to gank people w/o having any "y u no fair" issues. It was a big fail ship. One day 4-5 of us killed bunch of ppl in NY and even one experienced cruiser pilot, next day one Titan killed all 6 us, pair by pair.
I vote yes for new model as it's size fits LF range, but it would need new name too, something funny, like Tadpole. And Sea Serpent should stay as it is (for the old days sake), just give it more armor to compensate for the size. Having two usable BHG LFs can't hurt, imho.
I don't know what you guys are doing wrong. My greatest pvp achievements have always been in the Sea Serpent. Coming out of 5v1s and winning with it? Glorious.