In a futuristic space universe, wouldn't it be easier to transport oxygen in a liquid, or even solid form? (evacuate your cargo hold and you have an instant refrigeration unit...right?) In which case a ton(ne) of oxygen could potentially take up very little space.
However, compare the value of 1 unit of oxygen to 1 unit of scrap metal...
Then remember that (in Disco) 1 unit of metal ore is worth at least 3 or 4 times 1 unit of manufactured goods. Compare that to a 5lb laptop (costs around £300), while 5lb copper costs about £5 (note: a laptop is not 100% copper).
In conclusion, neither "credits" nor "cargo units" are actual, measurable units and are merely placeholders to allow you to play the game.
Okay so, let's use gold as a basis for both currencies.
1 m3 of Gold is 19,282kg. That's about 752,803,987 USD
At the same time, presuming one unit of cargo is 1m3 , gold is sold for 399 Sirian Credits on sell points . This means one Sirian credit is in fact worth 1,886,726 USD
Yes, That is very, very ridiculous.
I'd say $1 is worth about 100 million credits, in the sense of selling credits for actual money, which is bad, and admins don't like, so don't do it.
In regards to "if this were RL", then, well, I for one don't really give a crap. Since a ship in Disco is like a car, and it costs 1-2 mil to buy a nice ship, then I would say 1 mil SC is like 10k USD. No need for all the *nerd voice* "well if this is 1 meter cubed, then we adjust for inflation, and take the weight into account, and factor in Einstein's Theory of Relativity, then..."
EDIT: Someone is going to reply to this with "well a battleship costs 5 trillion dollars then, that's PREPOSTEROUS". Can we all just agree the Disco economy is completely screwed up, and comparing Disco to RL is just silly? Srsly guys, srsly.
One unit of gold is the same size as one unit of oxygen. I'd rather say it's 1-2 cubic meters, not a tonne.
Also, there is no doubt that the value of some things is higher and lower than on Earth, either because the space contains a lot of it, or because it doesn't contain any of it. The value of gold would be lower because of Dublin, while the average value of oxygen, because of all those stations in vacuum far far from the nearest planet, would be considerably higher.
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(03-01-2015, 04:51 AM)Radion Wrote: Jayce, by that logic though, at $480 a credit, the Atlantis carrier with nothing on it which costs 535 million credits, would cost a bit less than 257 billion USD, putting a cau8 on it makes it approach 600 billion. For comparison, the Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier soon to be finished costs a bit less than 13 billion. Something there does not seem right.
I'd argue that actually just makes Jayce's numbers seem more accurate than they may at first appear.
Like seriously. A top-of-the-line kilometer-long spaceship costing a fair bit more than a modern-day aircraft carrier (which for the record doesn't have the ability to fly off into space) seems very reasonable to me. Especially considering that planet-side warfare is still a thing in this setting too (see: Leeds).
Maybe compare the price according to that "Oxygen logic" of a VHF to a jet fighter. It's probably not that far off.
Comparing a real-life i.e. supply-demand based economy to a fictional balance-based economy won't give you "realistic" results in most cases, I'd argue.
Taking one unit of oxygen as a matchstick for calculations has, thus far, probably yielded the best approximation.
why would you compare RL to FL
even inRP logic in FL disappeared once the 22 turrets of neutrality appeared
and they'll soon be turned into 22 turrets of hostility since the FL restart gives more neutrality than the zoner restart
Cargo Units if anything, most likely refer to volume since this can be applied universally to anything short of tanks and other big objects... and those weren't in vanilia anyway.
Assume that all containers are produced to a standard size and volume. Confirmed by jettisoning cargo ingame which shows up as pretty much always the same container. This standard defines one container as one cargo unit. A adv. train can carry 5000 containers of something, but these containers might not necessarily always contain the same amount of that something as containers with something else.
The amount of for example oxygen loaded to a container equivalent to 1 cargo unit is, like planet populations, left to the imagination.