Pretty sure It was me who made this report, and I did so because Klah provided information about my faction to Auxesia, a faction that was enemies with the 5th at the time. I looked around on the forums, message dumps and pretty much everywhere and found no preexisting RP not even in the Auxesia message dumps.
To me the whole thing read something like this, 5th and Aux are enemies then overnight with no background RP at all not even so much as a meeting to agree on some sort of "Deal" to allow the trade of information Klah makes a post to Auxesia giving them information. So what? 5th and Aux just become friends overnight for no reason? That is unless I'm wrong and there was preexisting RP to support this "Deal" in which case I'd love to invite you Klah to share with us the evidence we both know doesn't exist.
As spazzy rightly pointed out Klah has a SRP and is allowed to have a slightly different reputation with various factions... however the role play must exist to justify that, in this case well... there was none. While I appreciate that Klah puts a some RP effort into his SRP ship I find it sickening that this was degraded to just a "Warning".
I cannot speak for 5th but I can speak for the Liberty lawful side.
Just posting here to make a clarification here that background RP does exist between cesation of hostilities between the sides and the possibility of exchanging information on mutual enemies. I can link you certain threads if needed.
In kalhs case its different as he had his own personal RP on it.
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(02-28-2017, 10:28 AM)Arbs Wrote: I cannot speak for 5th but I can speak for the Liberty lawful side.
Just posting here to make a clarification here that background RP does exist between cesation of hostilities between the sides and the possibility of exchanging information on mutual enemies. I can link you certain threads if needed.
In kalhs case its different as he had his own personal RP on it.
While that's all well and good Arbs I'm sure it doesn't exist before the date that Klah made his post.
Yeah I dont really know what this is about, so I cant really say anything. Just pointed that out in case there was a misunderstanding. Anyways im out of this thread.
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(02-28-2017, 10:13 AM)TickTack Wrote: Pretty sure It was me who made this report, and I did so because Klah provided information about my faction to Auxesia, a faction that was enemies with the 5th at the time. I looked around on the forums, message dumps and pretty much everywhere and found no preexisting RP not even in the Auxesia message dumps.
To me the whole thing read something like this, 5th and Aux are enemies then overnight with no background RP at all not even so much as a meeting to agree on some sort of "Deal" to allow the trade of information Klah makes a post to Auxesia giving them information. So what? 5th and Aux just become friends overnight for no reason? That is unless I'm wrong and there was preexisting RP to support this "Deal" in which case I'd love to invite you Klah to share with us the evidence we both know doesn't exist.
As spazzy rightly pointed out Klah has a SRP and is allowed to have a slightly different reputation with various factions... however the role play must exist to justify that, in this case well... there was none. While I appreciate that Klah puts a some RP effort into his SRP ship I find it sickening that this was degraded to just a "Warning".
Just so you know, as he was the other party member that he roleplayed with. He and I have been mostly roleplaying ingame to exchange information or to - well - roleplay. It has nothing to do with the faction, as it was a character thing.
I know that he wanted me to keep a certain item exchange 100% private oorply and inrply (obviously), but oorply because it may cause drama inside the faction, because of people holding disdain against our faction, etc. Of course, the characters don't entirely trust each other, but rather do it for the mutual gain of information. Just like anyone would that would go to the black market and keep it quiet, no one would openly announce going there. The minor trust starting when my character started feeding them info like fish flakes in order to gain empathy in order to persuade them into trusting and then eventually, try to get information via exchanging.
I do not force Kalh to RP his ways, as it's entirely his choice to do so. Honest mistakes were made. It wasn't technically stated that all RP must be entirely documented.
Instead of going straight to report-mode out of bitterness and hatred, you could have posted in the feedback thread and we could have explained it to you and gave you some logs ;³
(This is my only and last post to explain things on my end)
(02-28-2017, 10:13 AM)TickTack Wrote: To me the whole thing read something like this, 5th and Aux are enemies then overnight with no background RP at all
This is the one and only post you will see from me here,
This is not a 5th and aux group up... its a Jonathan Kalh and Keeper Raven thing... I have been Rping with Raven since the beginning of my SRP almost 8 months ago... don't believe me? Click here the captains log, first page... I have already spoken to the Admins, and i need to post my in-game meetings to avoid this sort of issue as well so they can see what i am up to and what not. It was not done intentional hence why i guess they only made it a warning... Remember Ticktak, SRP's get more leeway with their RP. I am allowed to have a move diverse relation pool and i am allowed to RP with people so long as i have good reason to... me and Keeper Raven go as far back as it goes, when i was still Order... Our Hatred for each other changed after the ceasefire with Hellfire, Aux, and myself Proof. Dont go throwing around that you think you know everything when you don't.
(02-28-2017, 07:57 PM)Auzari Wrote: Just so you know, as he was the other party member that he roleplayed with. He and I have been mostly roleplaying ingame to exchange information or to - well - roleplay. It has nothing to do with the faction, as it was a character thing.
I know that he wanted me to keep a certain item exchange 100% private oorply and inrply (obviously), but oorply because it may cause drama inside the faction, because of people holding disdain against our faction, etc. Of course, the characters don't entirely trust each other, but rather do it for the mutual gain of information. Just like anyone would that would go to the black market and keep it quiet, no one would openly announce going there. The minor trust starting when my character started feeding them info like fish flakes in order to gain empathy in order to persuade them into trusting and then eventually, try to get information via exchanging.
I do not force Kalh to RP his ways, as it's entirely his choice to do so. Honest mistakes were made. It wasn't technically stated that all RP must be entirely documented.
Instead of going straight to report-mode out of bitterness and hatred, you could have posted in the feedback thread and we could have explained it to you and gave you some logs ;³
(This is my only and last post to explain things on my end)
I tried posting in 5th feedback once, I also tried talking to Klah once, when I posted in 5th feedback they turned the whole thing into being about me, when I spoke with klah he buried his head in the sand and told me to stop messaging him. So since they refuse to listen I decided to make a report.
Furthermore because he has a SRP ship he should be setting the "Golden standard" for RP, an example by which everyone should follow but in this case it appears he went from straight enemies to trading intel with an enemy of the 5th with no background at all. Mhmmm yes you say there's in-game RP.... the kind Auxesia loves to make reports about yet I see nothing about the interactions that lead to this arrangement in Auxesia's report threads nor do I see anything about it in any of the posts he has made.
Also nyx, lets not resort to name calling and calling people haters and bitter, that hurt my feelings and now I'm gonna have to go and eat buckets of KFC to make me feel better again.
We do not need to see this slapfight. Move to PMs or skype, please.
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