(02-28-2018, 06:33 PM)SnakThree Wrote: No need to bump your message to Sirius twice per day. People don't reply because they are not interested and not because they don't notice
It's once per day at maxium.
Why aren't the people interested into it? It would be good to have a serious feedback. What can we do better? You don't need to mention that the bump annoys you. Pretty clear already.
Mostly we just receive negative feedback for something really cool.
What is the issue you guys have with it?
Should we stop it? At least it won't work without more support.
Maybe your idea is cool but highly improbable and effort required to put in for something that is highly unlikely to see the day of light is bad investment of efforts that could be put to better use on doing something viable right now. After all, what you hope is far away from what community needs in this mod.
Before someone pastes my rather nonchalantly verbalized varient here, I'll formulate it as constructive as possible.
- Your first attempt on this failed because you didn't do enough background research. You build a PoB in Cayman, SCRA is contesting Cayman in theory for a long time, your PoB was kindly asked to be removed, you argued ooRP (especially shoutbox) and inRP for a few days, Hans eventually got pissed and left for a while, etc. This didn't make a good impression at all, and Hans was a rather popular member of the community. Something you are not, as you hopefully know.
- You ask for investments of up to billions of ingame credits for something that never is going to happen. If it was just about inRP money without any grind behind it, people would at least play along and pretend they would have given you funds. To most people, it looks like scam, since they will never receive anything for it, no matter how you try to sell it to them.
- You are not known for finishing stuff.
- The general presentation of the project, even with the DVD thread, is not really convincing.
(02-28-2018, 06:49 PM)The Sol Project Wrote: Why aren't the people interested into it? It would be good to have a serious feedback. What can we do better?
We are Council. We are interested in the removal of the current Gallic regime and the reformation of our house into a republic, not in the construction of a hypergate far away from us and anything we care about, to even further from us and anything we care about. You can't do much about it. Just a personal example.
Just because you think an idea is cool doesn't mean others, inRP or ooRP, think the same way. It's not necessarily your fault though.
It would be better if the sums would be more just RP, not actual ingame credits, because... honestly just think about it, who does seriously can giveway a billion of credits for some perks that are not really existent. The idea is nice to explore, but you gotta think if it would be implemented really. You want to build a Hypergate to Sol? Is the community interested in such endeavour? I don't want to be here to criticize and make you feel bad. Again, from my POV the idea behind is quite great, to explore what was back in the past and find the truth. I can imagine the Sol being split in sectors for each planet by the Houses and whatnot. If the community would love such an idea, which it would basically affect most players in game, story-wise... it will most likely be implemented. If again... the devs see the desires of the community to have such a thing..
- I didn't complain about it in the shoutbox, but Hans did yes, after all he is also just a human same as everyone else in here. However I talked in private with Tabris about it and we even found a consent.
The silence afterwards was caused by other things which is called RL. Hans was busy with university stuff and he still is and I moved my entire home. The third of us doesn't need to mentioned still.
I know that I don't have a good reputation in this community and that some have a clear strange grudge against me but seriously and sadly after all it isn't justified. Do I think it is unfair? Yes. Only a few persons in here are entirely aware about the truth behind the events that are still thrown at me. However I won't throw it out on forums anymore, but it begins with that I am not a couper. May start to know me better before just picking up others opinions.
- it starts with 100mill. Not that much credits at all for anyone in here. And yes, the 100 mill are also originally meant to be a buy in to participate the event. The gained credits should be pumped back into the communury anyway. What makes you and @SnakThree believe this will never going to be happen?
To clarify this. We will submit our stuff to the disco staff when it is applicable to be submitted. If it gets declined by them for whatever reason it will be released on another server.
- Where did you get that I don't finish stuff? I brought AI official twice with AI Consensus and with PRIME. Anything else is only this project, the Zoner Consensus and the Gammuians. Beyond that I didn't have any serious projects, except IRG from that I was kicked by @"Erzie" for being voted 1ic while he vanished silently.
- About the presentation. That is the point feedback should apply and is needed. We are aware that the story progress is far from being fast.
@Thyrzul
Of course, Council wouldn't be much interested into this inRP, but ohers should be. Doubting though that we have alot people in this communty who aren't interested in exploring Sol and fly there if they can.
(02-28-2018, 09:28 PM)HassLHoFF™ Wrote: @Thyrzul
Of course, Council wouldn't be much interested into this inRP, but ohers should be. Doubting though that we have alot people in this communty who aren't interested in exploring Sol and fly there if they can.
Players? Yes. Characters? Maybe. Investors? No.
That's the problem. You might have people interested and hopeful for this, but no character in his right mind would invest in such endavour if there is no clear gain for him. For example, you have Ageira, greatest technological corporation in Sirius that has simple goal - make billions of cash while selling products. How do you make billions? By small increments of technological advancement and not by building the biggest badass super-hyper-duper-jump-gate that takes us back to our Solar System where resources were most likely exhausted by then.
What I am trying to say here, is that people might be ooRPly interested to see this implemented, but inRP, proper investors would not as there is no clear plan of dividend payout after it has come to fruition.
(02-28-2018, 09:28 PM)HassLHoFF™ Wrote: - it starts with 100mill. Not that much credits at all for anyone in here. And yes, the 100 mill are also originally meant to be a buy in to participate the event. The gained credits should be pumped back into the communury anyway. What makes you and @SnakThree believe this will never going to be happen?
Using that same logic, I could ask someone to give me 100 million to buy a ship. Then sell that ship for 80 million. After that it is done, I have 180 million that I then give out to a bounty board or whatever. The original investor has not benefited even slightly from this transaction.
(02-28-2018, 09:28 PM)HassLHoFF™ Wrote: To clarify this. We will submit our stuff to the disco staff when it is applicable to be submitted. If it gets declined by them for whatever reason it will be released on another server.
(02-28-2018, 07:02 PM)SnakThree Wrote: After all, what you hope is far away from what community needs in this mod.
This pretty much. (Also, my own personal observation is that the community does not really want it either)