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Something disturbing I have noticed during my pirate-trader interactions - sindroms - 11-28-2013

Alright, this is really a conspiracy worthy thing I got going here :|
Just hear me out.


Okay, so you know I favor unlawful characters over my lawful ones. Something that caused most my interactions to be very one sided and I never noticed this as much until now. I prefer to fly my unlawful junker, my pirate IDs and my rogues and xenoses...xenosai...xenos..es...anyway.

Needless to say, encountering silent traders was always a thing, but I never really thought it was a big deal. I rarely pirate for the RP, because that is not where I get that satisfaction from. I mostly pirate for some cheap income and the blue messages. So no biggy.

However, even then we had all those threads discussing how piracy is meh and how all the encounters are the same, how pirates are all 2milordie and how traders are silent.

You know, never once I thought that it was odd that you could by flying that 5ker for months and not learn how to act during piracy. Until now.



Okay.




What if I told you. There is a certain and growing group of players on Disco, vets mostly, who do this silent treatment on purpose.

In other words, they have boycotted piracy as a player interaction.

That there is a growing group of players, who ''came here for the RP'' and find piracy as a ''unavoidable, destructive one sided player interaction which is fun only for the pirates''.



I noticed this only when I started to fly my lawfuls and encountered these people on the other side of the law. I suddenly found myself exchanging paragraphs of high quality and fun roleplay between those traders on my LN or LPI indies. Once I encountered them on my pirate, they would be silent and try to cruise away without a word. Or fire back, whenever I attacked them after they ignored my piracy demands.

You know, I believe nobody has the right to force their RP on others. But this is border-lining with using F1 to avoid player interaction.

The worst part is that they are not ignoring the character. They are ignoring the PLAYER because he has a pirate character. These people are developing a very unhealthy out of roleplay dislike for any player flying an unlawful char, something that imho has no place in our community.

Funnily enough, I am sure other newer players will read this and go all "yeah, that sounds like a good idea.". Well, that sucks. Tho, quite frankly, it matters not. Just start writing down names of supposedly ''silent traders'' and see if they regain the ability to RP once you encounter them on a different character.


RE: Something disturbing I have noticed during my pirate-trader interactions - Kazinsal - 11-28-2013

Anyone who actually believes that piracy is a one-sided destructive player interaction needs to go to their doctor about removing ten-foot-long foreign objects from certain lower body cavities.

At worst, you pay the guy his three million credits and continue your trading. At best, you get to roleplay on a roleplaying server. Funny, that.


RE: Something disturbing I have noticed during my pirate-trader interactions - sindroms - 11-28-2013

But seriously, I never thought that this was strange. I looked at 5kers flying around with the same name for MONTHS and never thought it was strange, that every time they were silent and died. I mean, it would have made sense for them to learn that silence leads to loss of cargo and time spent during the trading :|

How the hell wasn't this caught before?


RE: Something disturbing I have noticed during my pirate-trader interactions - Tankman - 11-28-2013

(11-28-2013, 08:50 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: At worst, you pay the guy his three million credits and continue your trading....

Actually the worst is when you have to drop all of your cargo and watch it get blown up.


RE: Something disturbing I have noticed during my pirate-trader interactions - Zayne Carrick - 11-28-2013

Maybe because they've mostly encountered pirates like you?
Those, who're orientated on using pirate ID as terrorist one?

Because you know, I'm playing mostly unlawfuls too. And my number of good RP encounters with traders is much more than "pls kill me already, so I can respawn" and "thrust-thrust-thrust-away".


RE: Something disturbing I have noticed during my pirate-trader interactions - Kazinsal - 11-28-2013

(11-28-2013, 08:54 AM)Tankman Wrote:
(11-28-2013, 08:50 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: At worst, you pay the guy his three million credits and continue your trading....

Actually the worst is when you have to drop all of your cargo and watch it get blown up.

Four years ago that would be considered an "unreasonable demand".


RE: Something disturbing I have noticed during my pirate-trader interactions - sindroms - 11-28-2013

(11-28-2013, 08:57 AM)Zayne Carrick Wrote: Maybe because they've mostly encountered pirates like you?
Those, who're orientated on using pirate ID as terrorist one?

Because you know, I'm playing mostly unlawfuls too. And my number of good RP encounters with traders is much more than "pls kill me already, so I can respawn" and "thrust-thrust-thrust-away".

No, you misunderstood me. Those two statements were for two different IDs. I pirate for lulz and profit on my regular unlawfuls and go for the blue messages on my Xenos. Heck, I should have some 15min material on my piracy habits and what my RP and demands are like during them.


RE: Something disturbing I have noticed during my pirate-trader interactions - Zayne Carrick - 11-28-2013

Quote:Four years ago that would be considered an "unreasonable demand".
LOLWHAT? No, seriosly, even if you're corsair and suddenly encounter cardamine smuggler?

Quote:No, you misunderstood me. Those two statements were for two different IDs. I pirate for lulz and profit on my regular unlawfuls and go for the blue messages on my Xenos.
Even if not like you, number of people, who're
Quote:using pirate ID as terrorist one
is high enough.


RE: Something disturbing I have noticed during my pirate-trader interactions - sindroms - 11-28-2013

Should I also mention that saying that you ''pirate for the sake of RP'' or something along those lines is an utterly snobbish thing to say, since any sort of encounter on our server results or is the result of RP? It is something used by people, who want to seem better in the eyes of other roleplayers. That they ''trade for the RP of it'' or ''smuggle for the RP fun of it, not the profit''. All of these actions either result or are the result of roleplay. There is no need to try try and split them or make them seem out of the ordinary, especially on a RP server.


RE: Something disturbing I have noticed during my pirate-trader interactions - Zayne Carrick - 11-28-2013

Well, you're right but only partly. Piracy as act usually includes, RP, pewing and receiving money. But the important thing, why had you even stopped that trader?
You've clearly stated your position:
Quote: lulz and profit; blue messages