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RE: Liberty forcing Junker fr5's - The Savage - 01-15-2016
(01-15-2016, 09:02 PM)FluffReborn Wrote: Make caps no longer be able to dock on Rochester. Problem solved, praise the Lord.
/thread
Further discussion here is pointless, since the solution is being be discussed.
/thread x2
RE: Liberty forcing Junker fr5's - Sylvie557 - 01-15-2016
(01-15-2016, 09:43 PM)FluffReborn Wrote:(01-15-2016, 09:02 PM)FluffReborn Wrote: Make caps no longer be able to dock on Rochester. Problem solved, praise the Lord.
/thread
Further discussion here is pointless, since the solution is being discussed.
/thread x2
No it hasn't caps aren't the only issue as me and others have pointed out.
RE: Liberty forcing Junker fr5's - The Savage - 01-15-2016
I missed them out in whole that mess, what are they?
RE: Liberty forcing Junker fr5's - Mephistoles - 01-15-2016
Go back and read them.
RE: Liberty forcing Junker fr5's - Sylvie557 - 01-15-2016
(01-15-2016, 09:45 PM)FluffReborn Wrote: I missed them out in whole that mess, what are they?
(01-15-2016, 09:08 PM)Loki557 Wrote: Honestly I am of the opinion that any unlawful craft running to Junker bases with lawfuls chasing them is problem not just capitals(the OC caps in NY is just the more obnoxious and visible case of this) and like it was mentioned before there are already junker laws in place telling the unlawfuls not to do this so like I said before why is it such a big deal for Junkers to go ahead and send an angry message and maybe a fine to a group or person doing this and telling them not to do it again?
EDIT: And sure I don't mind making it so caps can't dock at Junker basses but that isn't really what I have been talking about.
RE: Liberty forcing Junker fr5's - JunkerTown - 01-15-2016
(01-15-2016, 09:37 PM)Jayce Wrote: Seriously, if being killed in-game is character death, then JT and half of the Congress should be dead IRP. I killed them myself.
Actually no you haven't... because ya see James Trenton is never actually at the helm.
Since my RP is that JT is a boss he's got lots of crew and even drone vessels that operate as part of his fleet.
See proper RP will allow you to die, die and DIE again.
RE: Liberty forcing Junker fr5's - Sylvie557 - 01-15-2016
(01-15-2016, 10:04 PM)JunkerTown Wrote:(01-15-2016, 09:37 PM)Jayce Wrote: Seriously, if being killed in-game is character death, then JT and half of the Congress should be dead IRP. I killed them myself.
Actually no you haven't... because ya see James Trenton is never actually at the helm.
Since my RP is that JT is a boss he's got lots of crew and even drone vessels that operate as part of his fleet.
See proper RP will allow you to die, die and DIE again.
Except this sort of RP would not work for 90% of the characters out there and as a rule death is kind of a gray area inRP for convenience more than anything. Also regardless, docking isn't inRP death it is PvPdeath(aka a rule made to prevent stupidly imbalanced fights)
RE: Liberty forcing Junker fr5's - The Savage - 01-15-2016
@"Loki557"
Well, fair enough.
RE: Liberty forcing Junker fr5's - Bruce Samson - 01-16-2016
(01-15-2016, 08:44 AM)Durandal Wrote: Oh, this thread again.
You guys (yes Congress, talking to you) need to get it through your heads that this is a roleplaying server, and that there are roleplaying consequences for roleplaying actions. Damn right Liberty and any other lawfuls are going to ask you to FR5 outlaws docking on your bases, or fine you for it, or just shoot you outright.
It's a shame, really, because I see the Junkers as having a lot of potential as a really smooth niche faction who would calmly wave something like this off going "sure sure, we'll take care of it.." and then offer some sort of service as compensation for the lawfuls to turn a blind eye. (Maybe try supplying some POBs? You don't seem to have any trouble maintaining a healthy five or so in your own little chunk of Sirius). And then use the money made from those services to hire mercs to shoot the lawfuls.
If you can't walk the walk then don't talk the talk. You as a faction are in a very unique situation to roleplay your way out of just about anything, but here you are asking for admin protection on the forums and asking people to turn a blind eye to you so as to maintain the quasi lawful status you had in vanilla rather than trying to uphold it through your own actions.
I have been supplying Adirondack Station for about 4 months now maybe longer. When the base runs out of cash what do I do? I put cash on the base and supply the base with my time and my cash. If you like I can start taking guncam footage each time I do this. So your suggestion about us offering to supply LPI bases is already being done without your knowledge. Well it was. LPI bases don't just supply themselves. We do it as a favor to the base administrator. Well mosltly me.
If the Rogue or the whatever docks on Rochester after having demands made in RP chat within 10k of the ship that made the demands then by the rules that ship is PVP DEAD. The player cant use any of his/her ships in the NY system for 2hrs. It is a cowardly way to proceed on the part of the Rogue/Outcast and I also wonder if players who don't like Junkers Congress make an indie char and do this on purpose. Do these ships ever PVP with the Lawfulls of Liberty? If not that would be an indication that my supposition might be true.
I understand all the different viewpoints in this thread. They are all valid. I'm hoping we can find a RP solution to this problem.
RE: Liberty forcing Junker fr5's - Snoozzzer - 01-21-2016
New transponders are a dime a dozen. Both inRP from the lane hackers and just about anyone who uses space google, and oorp with the price of ships
That and dockmasters can always be bribed so....
Why even bother with FR5's?