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How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - DAnvilFan - 11-04-2010
' Wrote:NFZ? Hardly a disadvantage. It's hard to enforce solely due to game mechanics being what they are.NFZ is the reason why Bounty Hunters can land on FP9 and the reason why Corsairs (in vanilla lore) want to destroy the said Freeport.
It's also the largest Zoner disadvantage in-game, which matters more so than any RP disadvantage. NFZ, which is a vanilla lore concept, has been the biggest bane of Zoners on the server. However, to do away with NFZs would be destroying one of the most integral Zoner concepts. One of the few vanilla concepts still left for Zoners after Angel added Gran Canaria into discovery and Juggers/Aquilons by others.
Quote:Decentralized? Eh.. could be beneficial, really. For example, the Corsairs' beef is with the FP9 and O-74 Zoners. The others, not so much.
That's precisely the problem. A decentralized government means more chaos, less military strength, disorganization, and lack of patriotism. Centralization means that people have a single cause and gravitate toward a particular entity. For example, Bretonians unite because they have one country. Imagine if it was invaded and each system had a separate form of government. Now the Kusari attack one Bretonian station while the others say, "well, we have separate diplomacy from those guys, so we won't get involved." Bretonia gets taken over one station at a time.
How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - Mannock - 11-04-2010
Globalo you've drunk a bottle of wine without waiting for me ... that is not right, nothing good.
How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - Elsdragon - 11-04-2010
FP9's biodomes were rebuilt, fyi. Also, the stations hardly have more than a few hundred people inboard. While biodomes might have helped feed the cosair nation, It could hardly be the source of all their food, which acording to vanilla is payed for by the artifact trade. This makes it seem likely that they Hijack what they can, get some from allies, and buy the rest. Considering the wealth of the edge world houses, this does not seem to be a major problem. As far as I see it, Corsairs may not have much of a native food production, but so long as their Import/Export/Interdiction Units do their jobs, they are hardly starving.
How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - DAnvilFan - 11-04-2010
Due to recent events in-game I would like to ask all peeps (Zoner, Corsair, or otherwise) to refrain from disrespectful remarks in oorp threads.
I'm making this announcement as a result of a Corsair player expressing concerns. Cheers~
How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - globalplayer-svk - 11-04-2010
' Wrote:Globalo you've drunk a bottle of wine without waiting for me ... that is not right, nothing good.
???
How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - Teek - 11-05-2010
' Wrote:@Teek.
The Corsair Empire is like Israel.
Everybodys part of the military.
its a militarized state.
EDIT:
Also...
I wonder if perhaps you have a particular love for one npc faction.....
Zonerzonerzoners.
They can be told apart from the rest.
I have a corsair ship as well as a zoner one. The zoner is actually fairly new. My biggest issue is the consistent my e-peen is bigger then yours I'm seeing all over. Not JUST corsairs, but zoners too. its just that Corsairs have been doing all the aggressive action with little real reasons within rp while zoners have been mostly defending FP9 which is within rp. Yes there are zoners also squealing and shooting corsairs on sight with no rp while giggling in their pvp stained sweat pants as they shoot you.... (don't picture that.....) There are also some Corsairs that have been trying to resolve this from the start despite all the hindrances from their own side and I applaud them. But its the Corsairs that are going out of their way to cause issues here, not the zoners. Hence why I currently have the stance I do.
How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - Syrus - 11-05-2010
I said all I had to say about this in previous threads.
It's just getting more ridicolous by the time.
You can continue all your ooRP actions and senseless pewpew, but don't expect me to respect your "RP", when you do it like you do it now and did it before.
I witnessed your behaviour while attacking Zoners more than once.
What I saw was worse than my worst days in Libby, it was worse than what I saw on the battleserver during the events.
Suddenly changing a whole factions RP, just because you see it fitting isn't possible. There were enough examples, why some things you take as war reasons are different iRP than you say they are.
You suddenly take away all the balancing weaknesses of the corsairs, the others suddenly make the Zoners into a military faction...Everyone just started drifting away from the normal road of RP.
I could go on and on ... but I said already, what I had to say. Maybe those threads where I said it are still somewhere to be found - maybe not.
There is only one thing I see left here, and it's all about players pulling their hate for each other in those conflicts and hate for each other deriving from those conflicts. It went to far and I honestly can't see, why there isn't someone putting a stop to this. Or at least setting some borders.
But hey, keep on doing it, I don't care. In my eyes, attacks on my Zoner from Corsairs without any reason besides "FU - WE R @ WAR!!!" are ooRP. If you want to continue this personal war stuff, do so...I can't care about it anymore, hell, why should I? Just keep it away from me.
How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - globalplayer-svk - 11-05-2010
Syrus, dont get me wrong... i was in theta yesterday and also today.. and all attacks and fights was in rp....
and personnal hating... well i can not speak for others, but for me is this game... nothing personnal... (i know i am repeating myself)
and last thing...
strange is, that lot people here complaing about why and how will corsiars change their rp... while noone is saying that zoners by refusing the food deliveries, and ignoring the food deliveries the whole next year (or maybe half) also changed their rp....
and saying that the food was delivered in rp(without any player ships ) then the same we can say oncorsairs that they are now farmin on crete in rp....
requesting from corsairs to stay in their core rp, taht they need food suplies from zoners while not requesting from zoners to jump to their whales and deliver lot of food is what?.... prefering one sidE? or ???
this is game.. multi media online roleplay game... action of each group affect more or less the group right near...
How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - Primitive - 11-05-2010
The war is stupid. But inRP Corsairs had every right to do it. Don't forgot here, Elders didn't decide to attack zoners even after Sails got shot in Omega 3.
This is slowly starting to be a huge oorp hate and grudge of players.
Also inRP zoners shouldn't behave or do how they behave/do now. But players ego usually is above RP in this game.
I'll repeat one more time. The whole thing is stupid. Stupid things happen for a reason.
OT: We can't drastically change the game. It's FL and it has it's story, systems, chars, diplomacy. Of course faction story will grow and change, but not in every direction players want. Get your self into role, not into OORP ideas and hatred.
my 2 billion dollars
How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - DAnvilFan - 11-05-2010
' Wrote:All this talk of weaknesses.. What's the Zoner weakness?
I forgot to mention.
ZTC roleplayed the destruction of Freeport 9's biodomes. The entire Zoner player base the went along with it. Or maybe some of them didn't. Whatever.
Bottom line is:
Zoners RPed the destruction of their domes in FP9 and FP15.
So now my question turns to others. What have Corsair players done in exchange?