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The Black Sails - Lump Lorry - 12-27-2009
' Wrote:Why dont you try to help instead of hurt?
I tried: I said they should improve RP and pay a bit more attention to fair play.
The answer I got was: "you are a liar".
Hence my conclusion is that these people don't want any help. So why should I help them?
The Black Sails - aznremix416 - 12-27-2009
Alright guys, Let me say to -NOT- Bring your pissed off attitude to the feedback in case you were pirated by the Sails. Your opinion is the overall roleplay, not how much or how we pirated you. Mind you I get pissed as well when Im pirated, but dont bring out the anger making up crap against a faction that pirated you.
The Black Sails - ... kur nubėgo? - 12-27-2009
' Wrote:I tried: I said they should improve RP and pay a bit more attention to fair play.
The answer I got was: "you are a liar".
Hence my conclusion is that these people don't want any help. So why should I help them?
havent seen any pm in my inbox yet from you. And as responsable memeber of the Sails faction I insist you tell that memebers name via PM so that we could prevent this happening.
yes we fallow same piracy rules of OPG. Yes we do. Yet we use OPG code of conduct as the base of our code.
Maybe we are not that good at is, but we are trying.
The Black Sails - Exsiled_one - 12-27-2009
Negative things should exist, but not in the way they are presented here. Feel free to edit the pictures and blur out the Sails| pilot name and then report those things lump lorry. I dont think you are a liar but like this you just sound like someone out to harm the |Sails.
I bet everyone would love that mining spots in omegas are safe and dandy, but they aren't and they'll never be as long as Grimly and those like him are around. And that's a good thing. Perhaps they dont even know it, but their actions are balancing the capital ships population of sirius and that isn't something to neglect.
As Zelot said, people don't have to agree with them, but on the other hand that doesn't mean they have hands untied, there are things as limit and everyone crosses it sometimes.
My only objection here is actually a global message to all pirates and not just to sails.
I know most people pirate for more money if target escaped the pirate like.. 30 minutes ago.
But that's not really the best thing always.
If a pirate catches the trader, he can pirate him and earn money
if trader manages to run away from the pirate, it seems he has brought only more trouble at himself for the next encounter. I feel that taking all cargo then is a good idea, but actually double monetary penalty sounds like stretching it out.
besides, if you are pirating near a base or near a place where trader can run, it is really your fault they got a way.
The Black Sails - ... kur nubėgo? - 12-27-2009
' Wrote:besides, if you are pirating near a base or near a place where trader can run, it is really your fault they got a way.
Hm, sometimes you run into something while getting back on pirating spot. Like at that time moving from omega 47 battleship fes were the cargo was offloaded, back to sigmas. And then just near omicron theta the trader was stopped. Well he made a run for it with rp "What?" and later on "NFZ you can't shoot me here" while he was near fp 5
I'm not such a fool who would pirate near exit ways.
The Black Sails - Lump Lorry - 12-27-2009
' Wrote:And why should I believe?
Your not helping at all. You know how much times I've heard "I dont have money" "// i really got to go" "NFZ LOL" "You dont rp"
You know how many times I needed to end all rp's becouse 1/3 of the traders uses rp to impulse to the freeport faster? YOu think I don't see that?
Do you atleast realise how boring it is to sit and wait there near the jumphole for about 30 minutes untill some interaction comes?
I don't care what others do. I never say //I go to go// in the middle of a pirate act. I never move my ship if I ecnounter a pirate (unless he shoot at me). So please stop it here. Pirate is boring? So why do you do it?
Anyway. I'm not interested in go along with this discussion cause to much agressivity is already in the air and no one good argument in favor of Sails is on the table.
My impression is that you now are just trying to turn the thread into flame. I'm not going to follow you... hence... I'm going to switch off my pc, have a cup of tea and read a book.
Goodbye everybody... and take it easy... it's just a game...
The Black Sails - ... kur nubėgo? - 12-27-2009
' Wrote:I don't care what others do. I never say //I go to go// in the middle of a pirate act. I never move my ship if I ecnounter a pirate (unless he shoot at me). So please stop it here. Pirate is boring? So why do you do it?
Anyway. I'm not interested in go along with this discussion cause to much agressivity is already in the air and no one good argument in favor of Sails is on the table.
My impression is that you now are just trying to turn the thread into flame. I'm not going to follow you... hence... I'm going to switch off my pc, have a cup of tea and read a book.
Goodbye everybody... and take it easy... it's just a game...
You haven't made any argument of yourself at all too. I won't start showing here what I learned on Logiccourse in uni, but for addition to that you showed no proofs. Neither your feedback helped in anyway to deal with the problem if it is real. How you want others to believe here. And how you expect me not to go on rage then some guy starts talking unjustified crap on people I fly in freelancer with? They are some sort of my friends atleast in this virtual reality? How you expect me to act? I just stand for their diginity, just the same I stand for my friends diginity in RL.... Just you may actually risk by something doing it in rl. If you can't stand for what you said
Why I do it, becouse I believe that in those 30 - 35 minutes i may ran into Bowex) or few actually roleplaying traders not those who uses rp to win some time to impulse to the nearest base or to call for help which will end only in one way. Tader will get smacked, and I won't be able to play my character for about 4 hours (it's my personal principal I fallow).
In addition to that I like to be corsair, and Vilkas (or Antonio Devivar) is my primary character. Did I answered your question?
Edit: "just a game" the problem is that you are talking on players, not characters.
The Black Sails - Grimly - 12-27-2009
' Wrote:Well if the Wiki is not wrong or outdated it may be right.... but outcasts average lifespan is 150-170 years (i dont remember wich).
and we all know that a brain will never work perfectly with transplant organs (they may work 97% perfectly but those 3% can be fatal in a space fight)
Also... i guess the average human lifespan would be 90-100 years or so.... using organs you may add 15-25 years depending on the organs quality, the successfulness of the transplant and the matter if the host body fully accepts the transplant or not... Also crete has a huge problem with food (too little produced, too many people) meaning that the AVERAGE corsair lifespan will only increase bout 2-3 years cause, well not everyone can afford the staggering blackmarket prices and hospital bills... Many corsairs are poor or just lowly paid... they cannot afford the best organs and doctors, thus the average lifespan is not much altered, while the corsair elite's average lifespan may be 20-30 years above normal
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About the RP and your goal of becoming official:
Your RP and the fact that your filling in for OPG which had left a rather huge gap for you to close, is good. I think your History and ranks are sensible enough... And if your slaves aint up to the task, then they can be delivered pr transport to work in the orange fields of Malta:P
Now i already know you got 1 warning and 1 sanction (one against your leaders too. tsk tsk)... This dont look good at all, i also noticed the rather serious argument between you and the HAF... NOT GOOD....
You've been punished by admins, now your own "people" and allies..... and as late as yesterday, grimly himself attack my Oc trident unprovoked in the NFZ of freeport 9 (he also attacked a zoner wich was 100% passive in this fight) now when a Benitez comes along he IGNORED his order to stop the attack on the zoner stating clearly "ill never see him as an friend"... something like that. Now inRP crete is full of people and low on food, commodities and other "basic" resources... The zoners are your suppliers. Now you threaten your only true "ally" one that is even keeping your people alive, keeping your chance to fight outcasts/BH/RH/keepers/wilde/BD/GC. Lets just say it like this....
I Do not approve... Not because you attack my trident (yeah its scary arms dealer sitting tight at a freeport doing nothing) but because your on the wrong trail.
To list the points which makes me say no;
- attacking and rejecting the need or willingness to respect and be friendly to the lifeline of the corsair nation
I will let you know that we are more in friendlier terms with the HAF than you think. For this, you can ask Heraklion, Sir Dark, Cienfuego ... just to tell about the first names I have in mind.
- not showing much rp during alpha/eta raids, mostly its... "Hi there, were here to kill you"... said in one way or another
I'm sorry ? We hardly turn it into long RP doing only MONOLOGUES
- ADMIN punishments, one recently being warned
These last warns had no real values, I checked them myself, and given the fact the admins don't have time to do all of it like I did, it was normal an admin would warn and I do absolutely nothing inside my own group.
- ignoring the commands given by a superior (Benitez)
I ignore who I want ! It's MY problem. And unlike YOU do, I don't dock at the freeport one system away as base of operations. Your sabre made me laugh even. You know you cannot change your character and attack the one you ran from ? Also I had you dead so log on, get on your 2 ships and fly to Alpha now !
- attacking within the freeport NFZ without permission from a zoner
I LOOOVED that part ! That's even why I made a shiny hole into this zoner cruiser.
The "NFZ" is not part of server rules. My char don't mind it when it comes to an outcast in Omicron Theta.
Now you can flame me all you want... saying its personal or not... i tried to be straight forward nice
I guess here I made you say "yes" ?
' Wrote:i feel this moaning about piracy is pretty subjective. I pirate like this and yet no one has complained about me to my knowledge. dudes just looking for things to throw.
that said, I would like clarification re: pirating cryer and docking on atka.
I was connected, heading to your position when you were pirated by Karolis. I don't know how it went this way, but I asked him to redirect you to Leon and it seems you refused. Going to Leon with our escort and no fee. It's honest don't you think so ?
' Wrote:I tried: I said they should improve RP and pay a bit more attention to fair play.
The answer I got was: "you are a liar".
Hence my conclusion is that these people don't want any help. So why should I help them?
Yes you are a liar, unless you have a name or screenshots for me. I'm like the admins, as long as you don't show me, whatever you say is a lie.
The Black Sails - Cryer Pharmaceuticals! - 12-27-2009
Uh it wasn't me who got pirated so I don't know the details.
But I guess if you're going to be docking Atka and we're going to be docking Leon we should probably hammer some diplomacy stuff out so we know what's up.
But in general, if you want to be landing on Atka it would make sense if you weren't jacking our ships. We're no snot-nosed zoners!
The Black Sails - Ocampo - 12-27-2009
' Wrote:Since we are close to them, we'll fight against them. Why Rheinland and Liberty are at war, uh? Is it same?
We have even -one- Osiris, where did you get this number? We use Correo as bank.
I am sorry but I am going to say this bluntly. Having ALpha has part of your ZoI is just plain dumb and OORP. Corsairs do not base in Alpha, please for your own factions sake, take Alpha on of your ZoI