There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand....

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There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand.... - Anomander - 10-22-2010

' Wrote:Try to pirate...like really devote your time to piracy

Fun ? Fun has nothing do to with it. I bet you 90% pirates will RP, and 90% traders won't.

Btw love your piracy chart, I'll print it out and put it on my wall.

I'm happy that You like it :]

I belive that could change - only if pirates will change an amount of cash they want, of course We will always meet a lolwuts and brats - but I think that % of them will decrease in time instead increasing.

There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand.... - SeaFalcon - 10-22-2010

' Wrote:but in the name of rule 0.0 it supose to be FUN in BOTH sides - not for only one.
and charging 15 M only becouse I can - is not FUN is frustrating and anoying.

you said 5millRdai pirates not 15... get some sense eh?

and 5mill on a 50mill load is 10% of the whole load.

And that way the trader should be happy to be alive and off with the rest of his 45mill.

And yes I do mining/trading/escorting/pirating/hunting/patroling.

' Wrote:... of course We will always meet a lolwuts and brats - but I think that % of them will decrease in time instead increasing.

having a guide line is fine with me.
But I have been doing 100k taxing for 1 week a while ago.
2 of the 13 traders I cought didn;t say a word and got blown to bits.
So if I demanded 10mill I would have earned the awesome amount of 20mill in one week but instead made 200k;)

Also all 15millRdai or 10millRdai people don't look at the forum.

so your table might be good as a guideline but I think the max tax should be adleast 8mill.

Edit: I'm gonna keep me from trying to stick away from this topic so...

There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand.... - Stoat - 10-22-2010

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There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand.... - Not Espi - 10-22-2010

' Wrote:so maybe something like that:

ooooh man, what are you smoking?

give me your dealer's phone?

There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand.... - dodike - 10-22-2010

Anomander, I see your interest in roleplay when trading is close to zero. All you are interested in are the digits at the end of the run.

As a trader you are supposed to be crapping yourself when you meet pirates. There must be something to loose otherwise what is the point?
It's the same as pew pew, how much fun would it be going into a fight knowing that ships are invincible?
Think about it

Edit: Also so low demands would kill escort business.

There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand.... - globalplayer-svk - 10-22-2010

Dublin, miner, 2 TBH ships... We asked for 1,5 milion... Guess what miner maked? I turned when i was 89k out of system map.
For 1,5 mil.
When i asked him if he calculated how much he was able to make in the time he was running,he was like: ehm,you are right.

So? When you will limit pirates,limit the other side too...
And i have too pirate/miner/trader char

There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand.... - rewritable - 10-22-2010

' Wrote:Anomander, I see your interest in roleplay when trading is close to zero. All you are interested in are the digits at the end of the run.

As a trader you are supposed to be crapping yourself when you meet pirates. There must be something to loose otherwise what is the point?
It's the same as pew pew, how much fun would it be going into a fight knowing that ships are invincible?
Think about it

Edit: Also so low demands would kill escort business.

Amen to this.

Being pirated when you have next to nothing to lose would just be boring as hell.
Also, it's quite unlikely to be stopped by a pirate on every trip, so paying half, two thirds or three quarters (hell, even all 100%) of your profit of one trip is not setting you back too much.

Yes, some pirates are morons. Some traders are morons. Shrug off their idiocy and move on.

There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand.... - Anomander - 10-22-2010

' Wrote:Amen to this.

Being pirated when you have next to nothing to lose would just be boring as hell.
Also, it's quite unlikely to be stopped by a pirate on every trip, so paying half, two thirds or three quarters (hell, even all 100%) of your profit of one trip is not setting you back too much.

Yes, some pirates are morons. Some traders are morons. Shrug off their idiocy and move on.

Oh really? I always RP with pirates, I even make deal with them as Indie Trader - and low prise demands can make only better, hire merc if You do not want be pirated - now You meed 3 pirates and You will loose 30M or more, becouse They hunt for money in many systems in the most good-price ways.
so how much is 40 M - 4x15 or 10M ? huh? I understand that You are piss off becouse I want to brong something that will cut of Your main money supply - but stop be selfish!

If there will be a limit in cash You can demand - there will be only people who enjoy of be a pirate - not ones who do becouse they want be rich quick.

and Merc will still be hired - becouse You can always meet 10 or more pirates on the way - and 10 x 500k makes 5M

There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand.... - cmfalconer - 10-22-2010

' Wrote:but in the name of rule 0.0 it supose to be FUN in BOTH sides - not for only one.
and charging 15 M only becouse I can - is not FUN is frustrating and anoying.

Oh you mis-informed soul. I used to think the way you do. Let me fell you in on "Rule" 0.0

This "rule" was put up by a former admin in the hopes of reminding people on this server to not be asshats to each other. It was set up to remind people that we're all here to have fun, and that it's up to everyone who plays here to be a part of everyone else's fun.

0.0 isn't really a rule. 0.0 is a guideline that people should follow. If you want a real rule to quote, use 1.2. I have put into bold the important part for you

Quote:1.2 Server administrators will impose sanctions on players for violating server rules and for any actions that harm server gameplay.

There have been sanctions before on...lets call it over-zealous piracy...when a sanction report was turned in for such. If you feel you've been wronged by a pirate, pics and report. But don't be a Karlotta when the admins do not deem your sanction report worthy of action. Accept that you might be wrong, or there isn't sufficient evidence, or that you're the one being the asshat in that situation.

' Wrote:Anomander, I see your interest in roleplay when trading is close to zero. All you are interested in are the digits at the end of the run.

As a trader you are supposed to be crapping yourself when you meet pirates. There must be something to loose otherwise what is the point?
It's the same as pew pew, how much fun would it be going into a fight knowing that ships are invincible?
Think about it

Edit: Also so low demands would kill escort business.

As for this. OF COURSE he's interested in the credits at the end of the run. Just like a miner's interested in the credits at the end of a shift. Just like a pirate is interested in the credits at the end of a session. We're all in search of the almighty credit.

It's not really as easy as you think to get on your trader/miner (miners especially) when you're looking to make some credits (as we all do) and also roleplay. As a trader, you're passing through a system. A short time doesn't give you a chance to interact with those in that system meaningfully unless you're willing to take time out of your schedule to sit and chat. Same with a miner. The more you type, the less you're making as Mining is an interactive activity, much more so than passive trading.

With a pirate, you're still after credits, but in a different sort of way. You (the pirate) want the encounter over quickly so as to lessen the risk of help being called or help randomly showing up. You're looking out for your bottom line both during the piracy and in repair/restock fees if you get into an attack. Both parties, as you can see, are interested in shortening the scenario in some respect. That being the case, is it any wonder we've come to "2m plz" "no u" "pew pew" "I sanctun ju"?

There needs to be a limit on how much Pirates can demand.... - mwerte - 10-22-2010

' Wrote:I pirated a miner for 2 food rations yesterday night

Risky pirated a iKytec for 300 food rations, but didn't have enough room in his GB for them, so he traded 300 units of gold ore. He then shot the iKytec for stealing Riskyshineys.

It was a good time.