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+------ Thread: Kusari State Police - KSP (/showthread.php?tid=7394)
Kusari State Police - KSP - wrathkin - 04-14-2008
Well, 'friendly' - perhaps not. But not hostile, either.
If you had shot them down, dumped them in space and denied the whole event, there would have been no troubles, would there?
Flying around in Kusari space with pilots of lawful affiliation, now that _will_ get you into trouble unless they are Bretonian, or you are KNF/KSP. It is nowhere near discreet, and you will be left alone only as long as you are discreet. You cannot expect a Doshin to allow you to fly along with hostages, and you cannot expect the KSP to go on record and say that Hogosha is allowed to attack the GMG in Kusari/hold GMG pilots hostage in Kusari.
That the GMG hauls fuel to the enemy is a matter that will need to be discussed in the Imperial Council, but until their status changes in KNF/KSP diplomacy, for a 'civilian' to hold them will remain a crime.
Kusari State Police - KSP - Robert.Fitzgerald - 04-14-2008
Zelot, you have to remember that the GMG supports the Blood Dragons secretly. They don't advertise to everyone "hey, we fund the Blood Dragons!"
If so, they would have leverage against the Outcasts. However, in my opinion, the Outcast/Blood Dragon relationship should be neutral now. But that's another discussion.
I would think the KSP pilots would "ignore" certain commodities in a Hogosha ship. However, i don't think they would allow GMG pilots to be hauled around. Perhaps they could be "bribed" by the Hogosha pilot, but they wouldn't automatically avert their attention because of Samura's control.
Kusari State Police - KSP - wrathkin - 04-14-2008
What R.F. says is true, and also I'd like to add my opinion:
Samura's control over KSP is over policymaking and politics, not over individual officers. Officers are _not_ required to cave in to demands from Samura, Hogosha or FA in the field.
In fact, doing so would cause them, the KSP, and by extension the Shogun's government to lose face - and that would need to be punished, not the other way around.
Kusari State Police - KSP - chopper - 04-14-2008
Excuse me, Wrathkin, maybe you didn't read my post clearly.
I said that I dropped the pilots, and by that i mean - yes, it was my mistake for having them.
I would even pay the fine if KSP officer asked me to.
Problem is that he said 'You can't shoot Kusari friends in Kusari space'.
So, first, they are not friends - you said it yourself.
Second, I wasn't shooting them (I collected them during the fight against Blood Dragons in Honshu).
Third, your officer offended a Hogosha Saiku-Komon by saying "You Hogosha are still here only because of Samura kindness" or similar.
In public radio comm...
I don't need to describe how Kusari citizens are proud and easy to get insulted, especially traditionalists like Hogosha.
In RP of course. I always watch my words when I speak to any Hogosha's friends, exactly because of that.
I also don't need to describe you how secret are Hogosha relations with Samura, and how secret they should remain.
At least for some Gaijins that are going trough Kusari in said time.
Also, I told him that GMG will be shipping fuel to Brettonia, which he denied.
Five minutes later, GMG convoy was in Kyushu, 15 minutes later in Cambridge.
I think KSP should scan anything that goes in/out from/to Brettonia border.
I very much agree more with this statement :
Quote:Samura's control over KSP is over policymaking and politics, not over individual officers. Officers are _not_ required to cave in to demands from Samura, Hogosha or FA in the field.
But how would you feel if I said in public radio comm that KSP is bribed by Samura and working for Samura interests?
Yup..
I expect to be scanned and stopped for doing something wrong.
But, what will the KSP do if GMG convoy (NPC's) attacks me in New Tokyo?
Will they fine me for being attacked?
Or they will fine them?
It's a tricky situation. And the fact is that we are enemies not because of Hogosha, but because of GMG.
GMG was once a main Artifact smuggler in Kusari. Hogosha took their place, going directly to the Corsairs instead.
GMG got mad, declared hostility. That's it. Hogosha didn't ask for it, but Hogosha got it.
I also intend to stop any GMG fuel hauling to Brettonia, so I won't waste a second to vaporize whole convoy in Kyushu or Tau-29, and deny it later.
Of course, I wouldn't do it close to KSP's eyes, I'm not that dumb.
But I also expect KSP or/and KNF to be more watchful on Kyushu border, because there's a war going on out there, and you don't want your enemies supplied trough your territory.
Also, once the Artifacts get upped in Kusari, I would really expect KSP to [as R.F said] 'ignore' them in Hogosha hold.
That would add to Hogosha RP, and a bit to whole Kusari RP.
Why? Because they need a special treatment in certain areas.
Even your 'Kusari legal code' says Hogosha smugglers carrying artifacts will be ignored.
Drug smuggling is considered heavy smuggling and thereby forbidden.
Also, please, don't take my suggestions/comments the bad way.
I'm just trying to make 'life' in Kusari better/fun.
So, my suggestions/comments are really positive.
Thanks for listening!
Edit :
Oh, and also :
Quote:-The Black Dragon Society -{BD}- (smuggling in front of an officer in public will be persecuted)
This is from your faction proposal..
And..
Quote:# Except licensed vessels, the following export products are restricted to Samura, Kishiro and GMG (PC faction or ID+IFF).
Plutonium, Deuterium, H-Fuel, MOX, Military Vehicles, Light Arms, Ship Hull panels, Engine Components.
Gaijin exporting the above items from Kusari will be escorted to the nearest Kusari base or requested to drop the cargo on spot if escort not available,
engaged if refuse.
Fine: 500k~1M
(Hogosha may deal in light arms and be ignored)
# Artifact trade is forbidden.
Fine: 2M, cargo destroyed.
(Hogosha artifact smugglers are politely ignored as long as they don't flaunt it.)
This is from Kusari legal codex, which was written by both KSP and KNF leaders, if I understood it right.
So, which one will it be?
Wouldn't it be nice for one legal codex to be active for both KSP and KNF?
Or KNF is going to let me smuggle artifactsght arms, but KSP will not?
Kusari State Police - KSP - Guest - 04-15-2008
Old informations, stick with the Codex.
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Kusari State Police - KSP - chopper - 04-15-2008
Thanks!
Kusari State Police - KSP - wrathkin - 04-18-2008
Well, if this is going to happen, we need more active members.
So - anyone who wants to play a copper who is no space-fascist, no tea-drinker and no incompetent buffoon - here is your chance! Be a Samurai Police!
Kusari State Police - KSP - wrathkin - 05-07-2008
I'm gonna re-bump this and say that the only thing we are missing now is pilots. Need - more - pilots. Have YOU done your community service?
Klick the recrutiment link in my sig - you know you want to!
Kusari State Police - KSP - Xoria - 06-13-2008
I need to know two things :
1. Is Wrathkin still running this faction?
2. Who is currently active in this faction?
I will be proposing another faction for an Admin vote by the end of this weekend, and currently this is the next one up for a vote IF we get good answers to those questions. If not, I will move on to the next one.
Wrathkin has a PM sitting in his inbox, but he has not logged in to see it in a few days. Somebody drag him in here or step up and take over.
Kusari State Police - KSP - Guest - 06-14-2008
Wrathkin is without net connection at the moment but should be back very soon.
He was planning an event involving the KSP but one week ago he warned us about the temporary connection issue.
This should be an updated list of members:
Wrathkin ([KSP-M]Takeshi.Mori, [KSP-Y]Tachikaze, [KSP-Y]Yakaze)
Niezck ([KSP]Maikaze)
Shamus ([KSP]Nazonazo)
Absolutex ([KSP]Suzunami)
Vape ([KSP]Kiyonami)
Blackstarr ([KSP]Natsushio)
Last rollcall: May 08