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RE: Poll: Jetblack & Doj - Syrus - 06-14-2013
(06-14-2013, 04:32 AM)Chloe Darrieux Wrote: Doj roleplayed far better than many people I encountered as a newbie. This includes official factions.Once you are on the receiving side of his "other way of behaving" you will clearly lose that thought very quickly.
Perhaps you should re-evaluate your opinion on how differently Doj treats new players to how the "old-timers" treat them. Because when you say he treats them poorly it rings true for official factions too, in my experience.
Overall I'm disgusted by this thread to be honest.
By the whole attempt you are making here.
By how you pretend that all will be well, once your threats are heard and you got yourself unbanned.
This is just another massive attempt at trolling everyone around. Nothing more. If you get unbanned, you win. If you don't, you at least caused a stir in the comm about "not getting a second chance". Just go away. You are not wanted here, and neither does it appear that you have any intentions to be here for the reasons this server exists. Your real intentions are obvious, all you wish to do is tear this community apart, enjoy the anger of people you piss off. I do not know what happened in your life, that made you into the disgusting person you are, but neither do I wish to know. Go to hell or whatever horrible place you might believe in.
Play the "nice guy" all you want, the people who know what your real intentions are will not believe you. You had your chance, long enough. You didn't change. If you felt like changing, you could've let the situation cool down, instead you yet continued to disrupt gameplay, to cause trouble. You are not a victim, don't pretend to be one. I can only shake my head at this ...
If only everyone ignored you, you'd go away eventually...
RE: Poll: Jetblack & Doj - Pinko - 06-14-2013
(06-14-2013, 03:43 PM)Syrus Wrote: Overall I'm disgusted by this thread to be honest.
By the whole attempt you are making here.
By how you pretend that all will be well, once your threats are heard and you got yourself unbanned.
This is just another massive attempt at trolling everyone around. Nothing more. If you get unbanned, you win. If you don't, you at least caused a stir in the comm about "not getting a second chance". Just go away. You are not wanted here, and neither does it appear that you have any intentions to be here for the reasons this server exists. Your real intentions are obvious, all you wish to do is tear this community apart, enjoy the anger of people you piss off. I do not know what happened in your life, that made you into the disgusting person you are, but neither do I wish to know. Go to hell or whatever horrible place you might believe in.
Play the "nice guy" all you want, the people who know what your real intentions are will not believe you. You had your chance, long enough. You didn't change. If you felt like changing, you could've let the situation cool down, instead you yet continued to disrupt gameplay, to cause trouble. You are not a victim, don't pretend to be one. I can only shake my head at this ...
If only everyone ignored you, you'd go away eventually...
Maaaaaan chill out. Being nasty and sour is no better than they are.
RE: Poll: Jetblack & Doj - Thyrzul - 06-14-2013
(06-14-2013, 03:43 PM)Syrus Wrote: Once you are on the receiving side of his "other way of behaving" you will clearly lose that thought very quickly.
He/she won't be. As long as he/she thinks of Doj and Jetblack as misunderstood good guys, and others do so as well, those two can keep opinions about themselves mixed and the community divided. By no chance they would risk losing Chloe as their ally.
RE: Poll: Jetblack & Doj - Pinko - 06-14-2013
(06-14-2013, 04:05 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: He/she won't be. As long as he/she thinks of Doj and Jetblack as misunderstood good guys, and others do so as well, those two can keep opinions about themselves mixed and the community divided. By no chance they would risk losing Chloe as their ally.[/color][/align]
On a related note, I know how disruptive they are. I don't think of them as good guys, because they really aren't. I don't believe in giving them another chance. I just like picking the easy way out. 8-|
RE: Poll: Jetblack & Doj - Potter Harry - 06-14-2013
(06-14-2013, 04:05 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:
He/she won't be. As long as he/she thinks of Doj and Jetblack as misunderstood good guys, and others do so as well, those two can keep opinions about themselves mixed and the community divided. By no chance they would risk losing Chloe as their ally.
We, however, never denied any accusations of things we did on the server. If those people choose to stick with their positive opinions of us despite being aware of what exactly our wrongdoings are, then it's more of a case of the anti-group of players being unaware of the good things we're capable of doing, don't you think so? It's either that, or it's the victims of our wrongdoings who choose to harbor a grudge until no end. Grudges are never a good thing, though, and they cloud proper judgement of others.
(06-14-2013, 03:43 PM)Syrus Wrote: Overall I'm disgusted by this thread to be honest.
By the whole attempt you are making here.
By how you pretend that all will be well, once your threats are heard and you got yourself unbanned.
This is just another massive attempt at trolling everyone around. Nothing more.
Until you've actually witnessed the end of this, this is all just speculation. I'm not surprised by your more or less paranoid point of view, after all, we've shown little good behavior in the past. Do you have it in your heart to remind yourself that it's been over a year (I think over 2 years for Jetblack, at the least) since all of our activities were public, so there might be a change of behavior since then if the situation of our last public appearance before being banned would be the same?
If everyone on the server would be given the power of being able to do anything without repercussions, the community would be a LOT less friendly. Since me and Jetblack didn't bother to abide by the rules over the course of the last months, our activity was also considerably different than it would have been under normal circumstances.
RE: Poll: Jetblack & Doj - SMGSterlin - 06-14-2013
Lady, I like your avi.
Rin is win.
That is all.
RE: Poll: Jetblack & Doj - Thyrzul - 06-14-2013
(06-14-2013, 04:45 PM)Potter Harry Wrote: We, however, never denied any accusations of things we did on the server. If those people choose to stick with their positive opinions of us despite being aware of what exactly our wrongdoings are, then it's more of a case of the anti-group of players being unaware of the good things we're capable of doing, don't you think so? It's either that, or it's the victims of our wrongdoings who choose to harbor a grudge until no end. Grudges are never a good thing, though, and they cloud proper judgement of others.
Question is if those people were aware of your wrongdoings or not. Or did you just fly up to every guy you later befriended with "Hey, I'm Doj, I broke rules on many occasions, trolled many guys before, new ones as well as old, and been constantly circumventing my ban, but hey, I'm a good guy in general, and I tend to help the select few I consider worthy, let me guide you around the server to show the basics of gameplay and roleplay."?
The individual judged your behavior based on one's experiences, and it seems in this community there are more who had bad experiences with you than who had good experiences.
Grudges are indeed never a good thing, but what do you think, who should we blame for those grudges to exist? The many who tend to hate the one causing bad experiences or the one causing those experiences to the many? You know the answer very well, yet you expect the community to just simply get rid of those grudges, like it would be so easy.
The individual judged your behavior based on one's experiences, and it seems in this community there are more who had bad experiences with you than who had good experiences.
Grudges are indeed never a good thing, but what do you think, who should we blame for those grudges to exist? The many who tend to hate the one causing bad experiences or the one causing those experiences to the many? You know the answer very well, yet you expect the community to just simply get rid of those grudges, like it would be so easy.
(06-14-2013, 04:45 PM)Potter Harry Wrote: If everyone on the server would be given the power of being able to do anything without repercussions, the community would be a LOT less friendly.
And that is why it would be dangerous to give an example that people can break the rules and get away with it. Letting you guys back would just mean that.
RE: Poll: Jetblack & Doj - Potter Harry - 06-14-2013
(06-14-2013, 05:29 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:Question is if those people were aware of your wrongdoings or not.
It varies per person.
(06-14-2013, 05:29 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:The individual judged your behavior based on one's experiences, and it seems in this community there are more who had bad experiences with you than who had good experiences.
I know. I never made such great impressions years before either, hence I eventually got banned. It's reasonable that majority won't change opinion until they've seen better behavior from me. But at the moment, I can't do much besides telling them why I think they should change opinion. Secretively playing nice means noone will be aware of anything I do which could change their mind, until I announce my identity which quickly warrants another ban.
(06-14-2013, 05:29 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:Grudges are indeed never a good thing, but what do you think, who should we blame for those grudges to exist? The many who tend to hate the one causing bad experiences or the one causing those experiences to the many? You know the answer very well, yet you expect the community to just simply get rid of those grudges, like it would be so easy.
I don't expect them to. I understand that wounds need time to heal, time and care. The least I can do is ask others to reconsider their grudge in preparation for the treatment, so to say.
(06-14-2013, 05:29 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:And that is why it would be dangerous to give an example that people can break the rules and get away with it. Letting you guys back would just mean that.
Good point.
RE: Poll: Jetblack & Doj - Tyler - 06-14-2013
(06-14-2013, 04:45 PM)Potter Harry Wrote: Grudges are never a good thing, though, and they cloud proper judgement of others.
Oh, so the behaviour portrayed by you two over the last year(?) with being banned isn't a grudge? Seems to me your "proper judgement" has been/is clouded.
Yeah, said I wouldn't post anymore since what, page 1 or so, this was just too funny in my opinion to let slip by. Just saying.
RE: Poll: Jetblack & Doj - Potter Harry - 06-14-2013
(06-14-2013, 06:00 PM)Tyler Wrote: Yeah, said I wouldn't post anymore since what, page 1 or so, this was just too funny in my opinion to let slip by. Just saying.
That's fine. Not every question can be answered with a single answer.
(06-14-2013, 06:00 PM)Tyler Wrote: Oh, so the behaviour portrayed by you two over the last year(?) with being banned isn't a grudge? Seems to me your "proper judgement" has been/is clouded.
No, actually. None of that was part of a grudge. It was simply us playing the most accessible way possible considering our circumstances of being banned. With little to nothing to lose with it, we figured it couldn't hurt, at least not for us.