' Wrote:I gotta ask you, if you drive do you give the DVLA or whoever your equivalent is the same hassle when you register your car? Becasue it's exactly the same.

' Wrote:So why exactly should he register?

' Wrote:In the words of my friend who has only recently started playing Discovery:

"You don't have to follow an official faction's rules, but it's advised to unless you have a good roleplay reason for doing otherwise. You won't get sanctioned for not following them, but the faction has the right to punish you if you ignore them."

This is making mountains out of mole-hills. Nooblet, if you just linked your "RP" into a registration, I'm pretty sure they would register you right away. Not hard, right?

Neither is the whole registration thing. It's a lot more simple and painfree than people mark it out to be.

' Wrote:Could I just point out here that if someone comes to me asking for help about getting a ship registered with the 101st etc I will actualy help them acheive this. I only think restrictions are good if they are in place to promote better roleplay. The more people write stories the better.

I have alluded in my earlier post to the fact that cap ships are fairly useless. I think that if most caps were roleplayed then we could return to having awesome ships rather than these lame peices of useless crap.

So come on people, just help the factions get things back to how they should be. When all the ship owners in disco roleplay we will be happy.
This is not about stiffling any indies, nor is it about uniformaty within roleplay. Your story could be totally out of left field for us, but if it isn't treading on anyone elses roleplay shoes or messing with already established thigns in game we will accept it.

One of the reasons we want to register warships is because what navy wouldn't know how many ships it has? What army wouldn't know how many men it had in the field? The idea that any armed force wouldn't know how many capitol ships it had in its possession or had made is utterly absurd. So if you support better RP then register your ship.

Can everyone stop doing the "big bad factions took away my toys" whinge for one moment and look at the bigger picture here. Its not about you, its about the server... Ok?

' Wrote:I'm not from the PVP server. Have never played there in my life. I have nothing past 2.5 times armour. I don't own a BS at the moment either. Any further clarification needed?
Yes actually I need way more clarification. But I wasnt talking about you. Again I haven't seen you RP. I dont know you ingame. The people I am talking about here are those that

DO NOT COME TO THE FORUMS
DO NOT RP INGAME
DO NOT KNOW WHAT CAP WHORING DOES TO ..all the other players who fly in fighters.

I DO NOT own a capship or a bomber, but I have had countless times when 3 OC BS are parked right outside Manhattan.
THAT IS NOT RP. THAT IS CAP WHORING. Those are the Indies I am talking about.

Seriously! I do not care if you are a indy or a faction...as long as you RP on this damned RP server!!!
THE problem is the non-rp cap whoring new players WHO DONT HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR ANYONE ELSE's rp.

I'm just sick of it. I'd like to play! id like to RP. but I cant. Because there are INDIES out there who sit in MY ZOI, completely OORP with Guns that one shot kill me and there is nothing I can do about it.

I hate sanctioning people, and I usually have no legal standing to sanction them. Theres not a damn thing I can do about the Cap whore people. No. I'm not dumbing it down to ICAP or whatever else you want to call it. It is a PVP CAP WHORE atitude that has no place on a RP server.

' Wrote:...excusemwa?

Are you daft?

No, seriously. WHAT? Am I suddenly not allowed to satirize the minority public opinion of myself? Would I honestly make such a big noise about it every time it comes up (before individuals such as yourself force me to get unpleasantly serious. I mean, really. I've probably gotten 300 posts out of this by now) if I weren't trying to satirize my image? That's something nobody would try and draw attention to unless they were very, very stupid or making a joke. This case is the latter. Get it straight before charging on here and making accusations of fascism.
Wrong.

IT'S EVEN SIMPLER THAN THAT.

For the Destroyer our friend here has literally all he has to do is post his ship's name. THAT constitutes a registration. RP is only required for Battleships and Dreadnoughts.

' Wrote:Don't register Noobl3t, and Role Play the results. If you do so you are the better player.

' Wrote:1. Identifying that there is a problem serious enough to require action.

2. Showing that registration will mitigate the problem.

3. Showing this isn't just petty bullying by faction leaders who want to pvp whore.

' Wrote:No, it's not. Not even close.

Registering my cars and bikes (I have several) is a law. If my neighbor said I had to register them with him as well, I would tell him to stuff it.

Eppy has no legal server right to demand I register with him. He has no moral right because the registration is meaningless as far as RP goes, he's just trying to bully indies because he can.

Saying that is like the DMV is like saying mud is like chocolate.

Do you want to tackle these or just make silly comments?

1. Identifying that there is a problem serious enough to require action.

2. Showing that registration will mitigate the problem.

3. Showing this isn't just petty bullying by faction leaders who want to pvp whore.

' Wrote:Actually the 101st is the law within the RP framework that exists on the server. They've been accepted as that by 90% of the Outcast population. Now I concur with Nooblet and Laowai, if the RP is visble already then the registration is unecessary, it serves no purpose whatsoever. But this is supposed to be dealing with the RP aspect of those who don't have the RP to back up their ship choice. Frankly the RP demand should probably be extended to Outcast destroyers if it's really got a hope of suceeding, but leaving these indies that do not RP alone isn't going to solve the issue at all. It'll make it worse by letting them think it's perfectly alright.

Now if you can come out with a suggestion that doesn't involve spamming my print screen button so much I get RSI, drop it on us. Perhaps we can use that to make this regsitration a thing of the past and move on to other things. Oh and trying to talk to them in game has had zero effect, that was the last plan that was tried to get things in order, that had a good four month's before it got deemed less effective than a chocolate fireguard. Because the responses were largely, "Lol wut? Noob!"

' Wrote:I'm sorry. Where did you get this 90% figure from?

They are the Guard. At most, the defence council for Outcasts. Mainly for the Omicron-85 system. They have a ZoI over Alpha but their authority ends at the the JH to Alpha. They have no sway over the everyday deals of Outcasts or what ships get sold or made. Especially when the ships are made on Malta.

' Wrote:Let me make this clear.
A CAP WHORE is not the people who are posting here on these forums.
I know Laowai RP's. He is not a capwhore.

A cap whore is someone in game who does not rp...anything.
Those are the people that the registration targets. When they indies who are
on the forum register their Capship, then we can track the other ones who are
not on the forums.

And nooblete it is not the same people...it is countless. Seriously. I have
lost count with how many people upon fire on me without RPING.