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RE: Can't decide between transports - Boldimore - 11-25-2013
(11-24-2013, 10:12 PM)Govedo13 Wrote: It is because the visual part of the ship that takes hull damage is around 30%.
So in general you can consider the Stork actually 3 times smaller then the thing that you see.
As already mentioned twice the cargo containers are external equipment so they serve as some kind of extra hull plates- the attacker hits them and the stork gets no damage, furthermore the "skeleton" that holds the cargo containers and that can take actual damage is quite tiny and easy to mis,also the small cockpit is well protected by turrets that act as well as damage absorbers..
Using certain dodging pattern allows the defender to dodge fire from other ship/transp or gb/ with the same speed at 400m quite efficient while the said pod absorbs snacs/bombers/. Also the ship needs other cross-hair spot because the current one allows the defender to doge more efficient then normal.
Also it should be one of the said actions not both, there are many different approaches how to fix it together with the stupid one - hitbox the whole thing..
Now take into consideration that you get hit by a cruise distributor before you even start doing those ninja moves and that the pirate usually fires a barrage at you immediately if you don't stop(escaping)...
RE: Can't decide between transports - Tankman - 11-25-2013
Love how this simple Q and A thread got derailed into a Stork QQ...
Also Stork isn't OP, it's perfectly fine as is.
RE: Can't decide between transports - dirmaster0 - 11-25-2013
Stork = Supreme Transport :|
RE: Can't decide between transports - Thargoid - 11-25-2013
(11-25-2013, 06:18 AM)Tankman Wrote: Also Stork isn't OP, it's perfectly fine as is.
Why?
It can take a Nova/SNAC and receive no hull damage at all, makes no sense, and its hull is tiny compared so some other 5Ks/liners, it's OP.
Have you ever played a pirate char?
"It's not OP if it's beneficial to me".
RE: Can't decide between transports - Pancakes - 11-25-2013
Stork is not OP lol.
Learn to SNAC it if you find it problematic
RE: Can't decide between transports - Valrin - 11-25-2013
Stork ain't OP, you just need to aim
Staying at the base where it has a pretty good spot to shoot works, or in the front where it is really big.
And so what if the cargo pods take the damage and the ship? It turns slower then some battleships and a nova on it's thrust means it's unable to dodge/run at all.
RE: Can't decide between transports - Lonely_Ghost - 11-25-2013
Every ~5K is good, doesn't matter of surviveability, if you hauling regular crago (not ore) you going to have a good enough profit, so ocasionaly interactions with pirates won't hurt you much. And Stork is not OP. Pirated it on OC, RH, Sair, Rogue GB.
For ore transporting- Bison or Shire. Thats for sure.
RE: Can't decide between transports - Mahagadz - 11-25-2013
For me, Stork and Bison are both good, it's just that Stork have more advantage when it comes to profit. But even though Bison has lesser Cargo hold, i'm much more attractive to it because of militaristic design (and able to defend atleast in a rough situation).
RE: Can't decide between transports - Vasuv - 11-25-2013
(11-24-2013, 07:20 PM)Govedo13 Wrote: Stork is OP because of the cargo Pods and because its hull/nanobot levels.Unexperienced pirates that does not use subtargeting would loose up to 50% of their DPS vs good Stork pilot.
Cau8 Stork is a way better then Cau4 battletransp. Even if you compare it survivability vs the cau8 Battletransp(using Hribek calc) it survives around 2,4--3k less but the cargo pods and the equal amount of nanobots make up the difference while having 800 more cargo.
Strork should cost at least 300m with the current stats actually or should get 400 nanobots and hull nerf and may be agility nerf that would allow more actual hits in his real hull hitbox that is really really small.
Hey I wanted your opinion about the
Rheinland 5k transport
"Colossus" Rheinland Train
How is it against stork
RE: Can't decide between transports - Curios - 11-25-2013
IF you're buying a 5ker then you're after cash. Then take the most easy-to-fly one - you will have to pay to pirate bombers\GBs anyway so it's better to have a trasport that won't also annoy you with stucks around the lanes and gates, easy to dock\undock, looks good and eye-friendly. Armor is not important in that case since you're going to pay (or die trying to escape) anyway - so it's better to take more cargo to get more cash as result, also CAU will cost you and will take your cargo space away effectively reducing the profits while not really saving from pirates. So more cargo, no armor = less expenses on setting up the ship + spare cash to pay for pirates\hire escorts w\o going lower on profit then with armored train + cau 8 mounted. Buy stork and trade. Vanilla yay. Or mastodon, but I'd take stork.