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+--- Thread: There are 85 POBs on the server. (/showthread.php?tid=110488)
RE: There are 84 POBs on the server. - Omicron - 01-19-2014
[2014-01-16 23:40:56] Troy Martin (Kazinsal): Yo, guys
[2014-01-16 23:41:07] Troy Martin (Kazinsal): what base plugin features do you guys want to see
[2014-01-16 23:41:23] Michał Golański: being easier to destroy
[2014-01-16 23:41:28] Troy Martin (Kazinsal): not gonna happen; next
RE: There are 84 POBs on the server. - Laura C. - 01-19-2014
(01-19-2014, 01:39 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: Something needs to be done about this.
EDIT: Something that doesn't involve deleting a potentially cool feature like POBs altogether.
If it needs change which will reduce number of bases, you can for example increase wear and tear damage. Let´s say double it. Or even triple it. That will make almost impossible to have base without at least several people involved (because I´m pretty sure there is lot bases at the moment created and maintained by just one or two players). This will quickly reduce number of bases because only dedicated group of players will be able to maintain them. It will also bring some roleplay because bases will turn into multi-faction projects (for example joint base of IMG and ALG which cooperates quite a lot even now) to reduce amount of grinding for each faction.
But hey, we should be sure that it is base plugin what makes really noticeable amount of lags. So we will not do this without serious reason.
RE: There are 84 POBs on the server. - Asmodean - 01-19-2014
(01-19-2014, 01:47 AM)ChillerMiller Wrote: Make it easier to kill them.It says everything.
Make it possible to destroy POB's easier. Even with a larger bomber group.
Then, factions, which do not have capitals, could do something about POB's.
Might even improve gameplay between Player Characters, when there is a need to hire some guns.
RE: There are 84 POBs on the server. - Laura C. - 01-19-2014
(01-19-2014, 02:57 AM)Asmodean Wrote:(01-19-2014, 01:47 AM)ChillerMiller Wrote: Make it easier to kill them.It says everything.
Make it possible to destroy POB's easier. Even with a larger bomber group.
Then, factions, which do not have capitals, could do something about POB's.
Might even improve gameplay between Player Characters, when there is a need to hire some guns.
This is questionable and I understand why devs don´t want to do that. When something needs tens of hours of building (I mean level 3 or 4 base), why it should be destructible by swarm of bombers in three hours?
What should be changed though is lowering the consumption rate during building, what will make building slower. It will prevent shielded bases popping up in ridiculous places like capital planets orbits over night. And locals (be it lawfuls or unlawfuls) will get more time to react and kill the base whem it is just level 1.
RE: There are 84 POBs on the server. - kikatsu - 01-19-2014
Code the bases in a way that will prevent docked ships from selling commodities on bases when the shield is up.
That means that if a base is under siege defenders who are already docked cannot log and offload fuel and repair supplies if the shields are up.
RE: There are 84 POBs on the server. - Silver - 01-19-2014
Ranging from a minimum distance to solar objects (ex: planets, bases, gates, jump-holes), to a easier way to destroy them (ex: you need at least 30 cap's slugging cerbs to even bypass the shield, and still the availability of commodities is another factor on longevity, and never mind the server meltdown when 30+ caps starts shooting at a pob), to silent traders that go from A to B, disregarding roleplay due to availability of certain commodities (yes, i am looking at you).
And now, well, server lag spikes all around, etc etc.
SRP pob's, make limit number to bases per system, increase failability, whatever.
They are hurting the gameplay all around the server.
Kudos.
<3
And now, well, server lag spikes all around, etc etc.
SRP pob's, make limit number to bases per system, increase failability, whatever.
They are hurting the gameplay all around the server.
Kudos.
<3
RE: There are 84 POBs on the server. - Mímir - 01-19-2014
imo the quality of interaction with base suppliers is generally lower than any other type of encounter because base suppliers more often than not are grinding and not really having fun doing what they are doing, but rather thinking about the fun they are going to have once their base is upgraded or build modules and so on - so any form of interaction or slowdowns are a nuisance to them.
make them srp, lag is bad and quite a few bases and baseowners contribute with very little to justify for the base's existence as well as the lag.
RE: There are 84 POBs on the server. - Zed26 - 01-19-2014
Even without waiting to agree on rules, develop SRP protocol, and read through applications, there's an easy first step that can be taken right now which should at least purge a few bases:
Post a prominent announcement giving all base owners a certain number of days/weeks from now to report their base with proof of ownership and at least a basic purpose, after which unclaimed bases will be removed. A base that is not reported within a week likely means it is being silently supplied by individuals who couldn't be bothered to check the forums, in a ridiculously remote location, and contributing little to the RP environment.
RE: There are 84 POBs on the server. - Amon.Cire - 01-19-2014
hhhmm this is a tough question... I really do love what player bases do for forum RP. The increased load on the server is troublesome though.
I agree with what Laura C. said
Make them take much longer to get up and operational. Yeah... this will suck for those building. However, it will allow for the bases to be destroyed more easily before it becomes near impossible. Right now there is no chance to react.
RE: There are 84 POBs on the server. - Zen_Mechanics - 01-19-2014
Had even more stations before 4.87, so i asdume that whatever you did with your plugins is causing the load. Server load is not the same as lag. You should know that, flhooker.