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Zoner transport - chopper - 08-15-2008
It's possible to give it 5001. Without capital armor, it will be able to carry 5.000 units of cargo.
All transports are made like this, though I don't think this should go to Jinx at all, since numbers are set by Igiss.
Just for comparing, Adv. Train can carry 5.001.
All other transports are also given 1 additional unit. That means, if it says in the infocard 4700, it will be 4701.
Zoner transport - Carlos_Benitez - 08-15-2008
Provides space for a "Pilot" commodity, don't it? By the way...the Pirate Train doesn't have +1 cargo, much to my annoyance.
Zoner transport - AdamantineFist - 08-15-2008
I love it. My only problem is the engine. It seems to have a tiny little flame to power a huge transport. Maybe make that little flame a bit bigger?
Zoner transport - Dusty Lens - 08-15-2008
Jinx, I would take into consideration the ID changes (theoretically) being made for the Zoners, if their max cargo is reduced a bit this ship should compensate by being that much smaller. Edit: I see it came up.
That being said... I can't say that I'm a fan. It feels like you've departed from the design philosophy you established with the Juggy/BW gunship. Without the curves and such of the Zoners we've a ship that looks a bit like a lux liner that merged with a saberb BB
The satdish is epic though!
Zoner transport - Jinx - 08-15-2008
the problem is that the zoner warships are horizontally build - and ships of that size are hard to fly through asteroids, which are part of almost all borderworld systems. - a vertically build ship is much easier to fly though - ( or a barrel / tube shaped ship )
if i designed a big transport the way i designed the juggernaut / gunship - it would simply get stuck in every bit of debris - or it would be as rediculously tiny as the whale.
and about the ID change - like i said, zoners are THE trading faction, limiting them to less than maximum cargo has nothing to do with roleplay or balance, and all about so called ooRP zoners, which is not a basis on which to build ID limitations on.
about the general design.... - the gunship / juggernaut are based on ( most probably ) dom kcavosh concepts and wrecks. - this ship would rather be based on what humans brought to sirius ( BW, liberty design ) - meant to be a liner like ship that focusses more on regular cargo, but with a shape that suggests that it also functions as a home. - the current liners are not meant to transport raw materials, the common transport though does not look like it can be used as a home.
life of most zoners happens in space rather than on stations .. so a home like transport that is both, a liner AND a real transport was the concept. cause its a new concept, it wouldn t be based on the warship designs, but on what zoners know from their experience with transports - thats rather human based transports.
edit: well, since you said it does not look like a "zoner ship" - do you think this here would fit in better? - its based on the zoner design concepts instead of the liner and BW series..
![[Image: anotherconcept.png]](http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/JinxTT/anotherconcept.png)
this model mixes the whale characteristic with the new juggernaut concept ( shell like design ) and the forked tail.
Zoner transport - Lunaphase - 08-15-2008
heck, jinx, love it, id sell my liner for that in a heartbeat. and i agree, should be a zoner only ship, although i recommend moving the bridge a little, to be sleeker. the sat dish on top could cause some hellish asteroid problems.
Zoner transport - Dusty Lens - 08-15-2008
That's lovely! You took my wut and swapped the W & T with a Y & S.
I do, honestly, feel that fits zoner 'design' (which is non existant beyond the dromadory in vanilla, which admittedly this doesn't look much like, but feels a lot like the currently established 'big ships' by yourself and AOM) quiet a bit better than the other design.
Zoner transport - Malaclypse 666 - 08-15-2008
' Wrote:That's lovely! You took my wut and swapped the W & T with a Y & S.
I do, honestly, feel that fits zoner 'design' (which is non existant beyond the dromadory in vanilla, which admittedly this doesn't look much like, but feels a lot like the currently established 'big ships' by yourself and AOM) quiet a bit better than the other design.
Agreed.. second one is much more palatable. I'd be willing to trade in both Sophie's whale and Reggie's Kusari Liner for the later model. A home and a barge. Nice.
Zoner transport - Jinx - 08-15-2008
oooookaaay, i ll texture and hardpoint the second one then..... - first one goes into the "garbage can" folder where all the unused but finished models sit:crazy:
Zoner transport - Dusty Lens - 08-15-2008
Before we get -too- carried away may I see the floorplan for the bar?