LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed.

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RE: LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed. - Hubjump - 03-03-2015

im going to try to model some ships,i got a few concepts and some might fit the liberty rogue style well with the correct textures...
also i thought of a BS concept,seeing as the liberty rogues are apparently a un organised group on the wiki or something like that i thought why not make it based off some already existing ships so i thought of a dreadnaught nose sorta thing with duel main engines at back and 2 side engines with some slopes for gun mounts but i wont attempt this yet as i do not know if blender will even work on my laptop...
and to the people who want to model i am using this thread,really helpful sofar
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=115056
thanks swallow!

RE: LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed. - sindroms - 03-04-2015

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=20736

Some unused concepts for different factions.

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RE: LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed. - Shinju - 03-04-2015

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Sorry if Image is too large... Phone for life.

RE: LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed. - Doria - 03-04-2015

You guys remember this one?

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=107101&pid=1433328#pid1433328

RE: LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed. - Lythrilux - 03-04-2015

Will the current z-line get their textures replaced, as they currently have the LR symbol and with this split this might not make sense anymore?
you know you want black and white textures with the JM logo on

RE: LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed. - Tarator - 03-04-2015

(02-27-2015, 03:28 AM)Zayne Carrick Wrote:
Quote:I have a question, if RHA can have BS then why don't LR- have a BS?
No reason, except for Blodo lobbying hessian interests in .86 development.
Submit a model, talk to devs/admins and Rogue battleship can exist aswell.

Then lets give battleships/carriers to AI's, Xenos, Junkers, Gaians and hell even Reavers if you will, or just every other faction out there that doesn't actually possesses the resources, tech and manpower to produce them?

Seriously....

RE: LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed. - Zayne Carrick - 03-04-2015

Quote:Then lets give battleships/carriers to AI's, Xenos, Junkers, Gaians and hell even Reavers if you will, or just every other faction out there that doesn't actually possesses the resources, tech and manpower to produce them?

If you'd determine who should have battleships and who shouldn't basing on common sense, then BS should exist only within House Military. And, maybe, one Osiris in Order hands and few Redemptions in Council hands.
Because no faction, other than House Military has necessary resourses. Check Vanilla, then think what could've changed in 20 years.

And now, when we've realised, that BS access is a matter of game balance, not reason, I can't see why Rogues shouldn't have it, since they've banned OC battleships from their space and still need to face LNS caps.

RE: LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed. - Corile - 03-04-2015

Quote:I don't see why Rogues shouldn't have it, since they banned OC battleships from their space and still need to face LNS caps.

Because scylla is like the best.

RE: LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed. - Tarator - 03-04-2015

(03-04-2015, 02:38 PM)Zayne Carrick Wrote:
Quote:Then lets give battleships/carriers to AI's, Xenos, Junkers, Gaians and hell even Reavers if you will, or just every other faction out there that doesn't actually possesses the resources, tech and manpower to produce them?
If you'd determine who should have battleships and who shouldn't basing on common sense, then BS should exist only within House Military. And, maybe, one Osiris in Order hands and few Redemptions in Council hands.
Because no faction, other than House Military has necessary resourses. Check Vanilla, then think what could've changed in 20 years.
And now, when we've realised, that BS access is a matter of game balance, not reason, I don't see why Rogues shouldn't have it, since they banned OC battleships from their space and still need to face LNS caps.

If balance is what worries you then thats even more wrong - give a heavy capital line to everyone or to no one, thats the perfect balance you could actually look for but thats not the case here, because as you said - houses shall have caps by default and this is not done because balance but due pure RP reasons.

Rogues fight no wars, they plunder, rob and kill randomly and in poorly organized hit and run tactics, giving them a heavy cap line would contradict with their RP capabilities and goals.

You can compare them to the Maquis with the only difference that Maquis know exactly what they want to achieve.
And by the way Xenos may have a few thousand more reasons than the Rogues to possess a heavy cap so why shouldn't they have one?
Not just because RP but as you said balance as well, lets give them all pirates battleships and flood new york with them.
And as far as RP is concerned, lets look into a real life example - I've never seen a Somalian pirate battleship have you?

RE: LR and Molly line concepts. Modelers inquire within. Community feedback needed. - Zayne Carrick - 03-04-2015

Quote:Not just because RP but as you said balance as well, lets give them all pirates battleships and flood new york with battleships.

Exactly how it's working. You see, in every house there should be pirates with battleships so they can fight lawfuls with battleships. If there's no native pirates with battleships, then Outcasts/Corsairs are used instead.

Quote:If balance is what worries you

I'm long past the line when I've worried about balance, let the devs worry about it instead.

Quote:Rogues fight no wars, they plunder, rob and kill randomly and in poorly organized hit and run tactics, giving them a heavy cap line would contradict with their RP capabilities and goals.

Then how they've managed to build one of the best cruisers in Sirius?

Quote:And as far as RP is concerned - lets look into a real life example - I've never seen a Somalian pirate battleship.

I've never seen Somalian cruiser/gunship/anything, except for small motorboat. Does it mean that rogues should fly only LFs?

Quote:And by the way Xenos may have a few thousand more reasons than the Rogues to possess a heavy cap so why shouldn't they have one?

The same reason they don't have access to gunboats. Xeno ID is extremely powerful, when it comes to killing transports, so they have no gunboats/caps to give their targets atleast some chance to survive encounter with Xeno.