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+------ Thread: Ryukyu Guild - RG| (/showthread.php?tid=131112)
RE: Ryukyu Guild - RG| - Fluffyball - 06-29-2015
Not to be harsh, but what about fusion with (unofficial now) GMG?
RE: Ryukyu Guild - RG| - Shiki - 06-29-2015
(06-29-2015, 10:01 AM)Fluffyball Wrote: Not to be harsh, but what about fusion with (unofficial now) GMG?What for? There has to be the some sort of the spirit of competition I think.
RE: Ryukyu Guild - RG| - Fluffyball - 06-29-2015
(06-29-2015, 11:31 AM)Enma Loyola Wrote:(06-29-2015, 10:01 AM)Fluffyball Wrote: Not to be harsh, but what about fusion with (unofficial now) GMG?What for? There has to be the some sort of the spirit of competition I think.
I think that in lore its the Samura who plays the competitor for the GMG though.
RE: Ryukyu Guild - RG| - Mark_Brown - 06-29-2015
(06-29-2015, 09:32 AM)Laura C. Wrote: Isn´t this quite premature and hasty? I know there are veteran players behind this faction, but going for official status after exactly two weeks of existence when you even barely interacted with all factions and inhabitants around your turf? I trade in Kusari and Okinawa with helium quite regularly and I didn´t notice any super extra high activity of RG which would warrant such quick move towards officialdom (though, despite i didn´t notice you around often, I don´t want to say you have no activity, maybe there is influence of timezones - it´s hard to judge when you don´t have your tag in tracker, maybe once it will added, it will prove I´m wrong).
Anyway, this makes impression you just want to apply for official status as soon as possible/in same month because there is rival faction for same ID which already did that too this month (and to be fair, their thread was obviously posted hastily as well considering it contained outdated and inaccurate info).
Two questions:
1. Do you plan to be different in some way from GMG| ? Because so far it seems there are just two factions of same ID which were formed just because each group wants to do things "their way" but in the end they are almost similar (one could call that "Liberty navy indie factions syndrome").
2. Do you cooperate with GMG| or do you plan it? So far I didn´t notice much communication between you two so I wonder how will you live and work together, especially if both of you will get official status.
I'd like you guys to thoughtfully think about these answers before posting cause as leader of the actual previous GMG| official npc faction you guys just shot up out of the blue and completely rushed things. Yet RP wise, you're yet to contact us but your write up states you're the "Governing body of Planet Miura" which I laugh at because we dock there daily and yet have no contact from yourselves what so ever. Now as the current leader of the GMG| we're noticeable and 4th most active faction in disco right now. What will the RG do to assist the current GMG who's been around far longer than yourselves? You've been very quick to write up laws which hasn't been passed by us or even discussed so for the record we won't recognise these laws or statement of rules.
Of course, there will be some "challenge" but I'm yet to see any. Fair enough you've posted an official faction status, but what actually have you done RP wise? Cause for us we've seen none. Hopefully that can change.
Bellck
GMG| Leader
RE: Ryukyu Guild - RG| - Miaou - 06-29-2015
@Laura C.
It's really hard to answer your questions without being overly rude to others. Yes, this might have been a bit rushed but I don't think waiting would have done anything more. As to us doing things differently than the old GMG|? Of course. Will we work with the current GMG|? I don't know. Of course we can trade together and stuff, but so far they have just been following our ships around questioning our every movement.
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Nope. We are too different in back story and how we wish to operate. I'll be blunt and say we don't like how GMG| runs.
@"Enma Loyola"
Competition is always fun. I agree.
@Mark_Brown
You don't lead the official faction. The old GMG|, while great, died out long ago. Just because you use the same tag does not mean you suddenly get to be seen as a higher authority or something.
As to our origins and Miura. Why not? People forget that planets are massive, important things and most people live their lives without ever leaving. We just decided to leave and head to the stars.
As to the mandate. Yeah, we did that. The old laws are out of date so we decided to make a mandate to deal with it. You seem to think we need to talk to you about every action we take. We do not. We are both unofficial factions.
Though, my PM box or skype is always open if you wish to talk.
Thanks for the feedback so far, keep it coming!
RE: Ryukyu Guild - RG| - Chuba - 06-29-2015
Never met you guys in game, but I am looking forward to it.
RE: Ryukyu Guild - RG| - Jayce - 06-29-2015
I've had excellent interactions with this group! I look forward to meeting you all again soon, and I wish you the best in your official faction creation request!~
RE: Ryukyu Guild - RG| - Maskage - 06-29-2015
Its a good writeup, I like that its not overly wordy. However I have some concerns and questions. Hopefully my concerns are completely unfounded and you will tell me I'm wrong, but I'm sure you will agree that this looks odd considering the timing.
GMG| puts tons of work into reviving an old faction, only to lose official status regardless due to a technicality. In spite of that we got back on our feet and re-applied for official status and were keeping activity up... but at the same time we lost our official status Ryuku guild pops up without any kind of communication or collaboration with the existing GMG...
Then, in a short period of time Ryuku guild also applies for official status, and posts this. Unilaterally claiming all of the sigmas and GMG's established territory as their own, and creating your own set of laws entirely disregarding the GMG|'s existing and long established laws (We keep them up to date), along with a few changes of your own that, again, came without any consultation or communication with GMG| or other affected parties, nor any RP basis (I.e. how exactly do we know what Nox is so as to ban it?)
I would really like to think that all that was just an oversight, and that RG and GMG can work together. But it looks like that isn't what you want. Again, please correct me if that's not the case. When you guys first showed up I tried to RP with you in game to see what RG was about. I was ignored. Fair enough, time is money can't stop and chit chat when there's helium to be hauled. But then things got a bit... odd. Part of your convoy stayed behind to disrupt all the trade lanes so I couldn't catch up... Was he afraid I was going to shoot someone with the same ID?
Unfortunately that was not an isolated case. RG| tagged ships continue to regularly disrupt trade lanes on GMG ships, what do you intend to accomplish with this? Every time I meet you in game I'm ignored in-rp and passing ships try to slow us down by dropping our lanes. On skype one of your people said it was "an acceptable way to lose a tail". I don't blame him I guess, Helium filled Kujira's are pretty scary. Anyways, all this considered it looks like you want to replace GMG| and that you want GMG| to just disappear. I'm sure you can understand why a few of the members of GMG| feel a bit insulted by the behavior of the RG as a group.
So my question is, what kind of relationship do you intend to have with GMG| in the future? because as it is now will not work and it will not benefit either group. We need to start working together and the hostility needs to stop.
RE: Ryukyu Guild - RG| - Miaou - 06-29-2015
Ah, the tradelane dropping. We've been doing that to each other, it's not a one sided thing. I thought it was playful little interaction. People do that with between all factions. If you wish for us to stop, then we will.
You don't seem to understand what a mandate is. It's a statement by the Ryukyu Guild saying this is what we will be doing. We aren't official, so we cannot make the Laws.
I've said this more than once now. I'm more than willing to work with you guys, but have not received a message at all. Whenever I pass by your ships I always greet you, so I don't know where this hostility is coming from.
Everything else you said seems minor, so I'll leave it as that. Thanks for the input!
RE: Ryukyu Guild - RG| - Maskage - 06-29-2015
GMG has not been dropping lanes. If anyone is there would be serious consequences. Anyways im glad to hear it will stop.