(07-09-2017, 01:32 AM)Black Widow Wrote:

(07-09-2017, 01:29 AM)Tristan Duval Wrote: I can not understand why there are so many dramma and salt around these two factions. Why can not there be two official military factions? Why do you work against each other? Instead, we could improve our RP and develop factions together, but no, we would prefer to have some OOC-dramma.
Legion and MRG are cimpletly different factions with own preferences and goals, so all this dicsussions... They are useless. But they exist. Why? Who knows.
I really believe that [RN] and MRG| have to cooperate and work together without this *****.
And, if to be honest, I was a bit upset by last events. When I was trying to RP, you had drama in OOC-chat. Instead of it, we could discuss a plan of attack and etc.
When I was trying to stop this carrier with anti-snub weaponry and Crayterian in addition, where were my allies?
Legion has many issues and problems. But we have to sort it out, anyway.
I do not want to blame you, but I really want it to stop. This drama has gone too far.
The frienship is magic, anyway.

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I really wanted to make it a pure RP charater.
And yes, I returned in [RN], but I'm not in HC, anymore. Just an outsider without power.
BW, please, don't kick me again :c

Never I love you x

Well, then I have to say, that I'm going to join in MRG, as well.

(07-09-2017, 02:16 AM)The Kingdom of Bretonia Wrote: Mmm, the sight of enemies fighting amongst each other... Do continue.

(07-09-2017, 12:55 AM)Black Widow Wrote: I feel the MRG are a GRN| revamp and a second attempt at them trying to hold power with a new faction MRG:

- given the timing of their officialdom app
- disbanding of the GRN|
- Sici's endorsement of MRG as being a best example of Gallic rp he had seen when MRG had no RP before their officialdom app was released
- all GRN| players moving to MRG after the GRN disbanded
- Sici using alts to form rp with the MRG via the Custodi faction

I mean I could go on and on about an elitist Gallic Navy faction that pummelled Gallia into the ground, disbanded itself only try and come back under a different faction name

If I were to look at the MRG there is nothing unique about them, if they became official it would just be GRN| all over again.

Tell me Shelco what is unique about the MRG? You even said yourself that in French MRG = GRN....... Your just a de facto GRN|, I think your members are even using the GRN| ID

I would rather see Thunderers <AG faction take your spot they at least have something original.

But yeh RP wise, forum effort, originality, server presence RN all the way baby.

Oh and the third in command who got booted out, well we sorted our differences and we are now moving forward together and I can happily say she is with us again.

Shelco I tell you now, the cancer that was eating at discovery we will root it out!

(07-09-2017, 02:42 AM)Wesker Wrote:

(07-09-2017, 12:55 AM)Black Widow Wrote: I feel the MRG are a GRN| revamp and a second attempt at them trying to hold power with a new faction MRG:

- given the timing of their officialdom app
- disbanding of the GRN|
- Sici's endorsement of MRG as being a best example of Gallic rp he had seen when MRG had no RP before their officialdom app was released
- all GRN| players moving to MRG after the GRN disbanded
- Sici using alts to form rp with the MRG via the Custodi faction

I mean I could go on and on about an elitist Gallic Navy faction that pummelled Gallia into the ground, disbanded itself only try and come back under a different faction name

If I were to look at the MRG there is nothing unique about them, if they became official it would just be GRN| all over again.

Tell me Shelco what is unique about the MRG? You even said yourself that in French MRG = GRN....... Your just a de facto GRN|, I think your members are even using the GRN| ID

I would rather see Thunderers <AG faction take your spot they at least have something original.

But yeh RP wise, forum effort, originality, server presence RN all the way baby.

Oh and the third in command who got booted out, well we sorted our differences and we are now moving forward together and I can happily say she is with us again.

Shelco I tell you now, the cancer that was eating at discovery we will root it out!

I'm bored out of my skull so this is the part where I look to feedback threads to entertain me.



You're speaking as if GRN| had the wrong idea from the start, or weren't RPing the Gallic Royal Navy faction and the house of Gallia properly. The reality is quite the opposite, everything GRN did, especially in the cases of Kusari, bases in Leeds, and how they handled foreign affairs was pretty much spot on how you'd expect to see the Gallic Royal Navy acting given how aggressive and organized they're by their lore. The argument of MRG being a GRN mk2 is wrong, the argument of MRG using a similar RP style to that of GRN and it being "bad" is wrong, MRG is not entirely GRN at all in terms of members and their general approach on recruits and oorp related things that affect the faction, speaking inrp wise, it does base its general approach on inrp situations from GRN, which isn't bad at all. GRN never approached inrp scenarios "wrong" at all, in fact, there were some pretty awesome ideas in line for the faction before it fell apart. With MRG acting on the same line with a much more diverse group of players and a different approach to ingame actions, mixed with using a similar RP style to GRN, they're actually more bound to be successful than anyone else. Look at the faction, it has a lot of members, more and more people applying to it, and we didn't need to offer gunboats as an incentive to join the faction. AG is a remake of B}, and we all know how successful B} was, if you don't know, it wasn't successful at all. I don't mind the people in AG, but you and I both know that faction is really just an incentive to motivate what's left of the GRN indie playerbase. As for your faction, I could go into how it doesn't really make sense at all if we put things logically inrp wise into perspective, but I'm not in the business of burning factions or playerbases to the ground anymore? hehehehehe. I don't hate you, I don't even mind RN if I'm honest, you're trying to do something productive and that's not bad at all. But taking a dump on MRG based on the thought that "oh they're GRN mk2 in everyway and GRN was garbage" is really really really really really really weak.

(07-09-2017, 02:15 AM)Caelumaresh (Thomas) Wrote: Widow, I gotta say, its quite sad to see you yet again go as low as to toss about personal insults towards Shelco, who indeed pointed out some valid feedback as to your actions. I saw the logs myself, and he isn't wrong. Your defensive, borderline insulting attitude only further reinforces this point.

You say the MRG are basically the old GRN, but you couldnt be more wrong. We got, what? 1 - 2 old GRN members? That isnt the GRN of ye auld days. As Wesker so neatly pointed out to me over skype, the MRG treats their foreign relations as they should be. According to the gallic view, all the houses of sirius are lesser beings beneath the kings heel. We dont buddy buddy up to them, we treat them like the dirt you scrape of your boots before spitting on it. Try to reflect this into the RN's foreign relations aswell.