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RE: New Zoner Alliance - <ZA> || Feedback (sun) - Enkidu - 03-28-2018
The ID, as wrote, as named, is @sindroms 's concept. Whilst "Zoner Marines" has funny associations, it's fitting for a group of Zoner idealists working off a militarised carrier.
RE: New Zoner Alliance - <ZA> || Feedback (sun) - Laz - 03-28-2018
(03-28-2018, 11:34 AM)Tænì Wrote: it's fitting for a group of Zoner idealists working off a militarised carrier.Then they are not Zoners. Zoners are isolationists that fight only in defence. There is a reason the Zoner alliance is a dead meme, because zoners with any sort of military makes no sense at all. (Why do you think people have pushed so hard throughout the years to try and remove Zoner caps (and creating our beloved Zoner tears in the process)?
RE: New Zoner Alliance - <ZA> || Feedback (sun) - Enkidu - 03-28-2018
(03-28-2018, 11:38 AM)Laz Wrote:(03-28-2018, 11:34 AM)Tænì Wrote: it's fitting for a group of Zoner idealists working off a militarised carrier.Then they are not Zoners. Zoners are isolationists that fight only in defence. There is a reason the Zoner alliance is a dead meme, because zoners with any sort of military makes no sense at all. (Why do you think people have pushed so hard throughout the years to try and remove Zoner caps (and creating our beloved Zoner tears in the process)?
The story and system devs have put in the game a Zoner carrier, which, in lore, is there expressly to attack pirates throughout the system and reclaim Freeport 2 by force. It has no civilian purpose other than that.
Now that Carrier not only lets pirates dock, but Zoner players can't do what their ships are meant to be doing. Hence the need for a separate ID, so this unplayable lore discrepancy can be resolved, for those Zoners who do want to fight.
RE: New Zoner Alliance - <ZA> || Feedback (sun) - Lythrilux - 03-28-2018
Don't drag yourself down with this.
RE: New Zoner Alliance - <ZA> || Feedback (sun) - E X O D I T E - 03-28-2018
@Lythrilux
If you are so intent on saying "this is bad and you should feel bad" why don't you do better than what I'm offering?
RE: New Zoner Alliance - <ZA> || Feedback (sun) - Thyrzul - 03-28-2018
(03-28-2018, 11:34 AM)Tænì Wrote: The ID, as wrote, as named, is @sindroms 's concept.
And in of itself it's a funny concept of a joke. I'm quite certain, though, that it was not his idea to use the ID concept as part of an attempt of a serious faction (attempt regarding both being a faction and being serious about it, though I don't consider the attempt that successful).
(03-28-2018, 11:55 AM)Exodite Asmodai Wrote: @Lythrilux
If you are so intent on saying "this is bad and you should feel bad" why don't you do better than what I'm offering?
How's that relevant? Whether he makes a concurrent attempt or not does not change anything about the low quality attempt you presented.
EDIT: Apart from that you were clearly told what to change so that this could cease to be a "this is bad and you should feel bad" situation.
EDIT: Apart from that you were clearly told what to change so that this could cease to be a "this is bad and you should feel bad" situation.
RE: New Zoner Alliance - <ZA> || Feedback (sun) - Enkidu - 03-28-2018
How about we see how the request goes, and, more importantly, how the ZA players (or any other players that so choose to use the ID) comport themselves ingame, before we measure success?
The ID was submitted as a perk, so if it's used for less than stellar purposes,the greens can revoke the experiment at any time. My faction also bears the brunt of the risk because of that. I have faith.
RE: New Zoner Alliance - <ZA> || Feedback (sun) - Thyrzul - 03-28-2018
(03-28-2018, 11:57 AM)Tænì Wrote: How about we see how the request goes, and, more importantly, how the ZA players comport themselves ingame, before we measure success?
How about we consider feedback in time?
RE: New Zoner Alliance - <ZA> || Feedback (sun) - E X O D I T E - 03-28-2018
I'm going to repeat my mantra of "Let's see you do better" until someone DOES.
RE: New Zoner Alliance - <ZA> || Feedback (sun) - Thyrzul - 03-28-2018
That's quite... constructive? Naaah. But at least it'll help others evaluate your willingness to consider reason and feedback.