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RE: What is the lower/middle/upper-middle/super-rich classes of Sirius? - St.Denis - 04-21-2018
Then possibly:
- Lower/Working Class - Less than a Billion
- Middle Class - Up to 10 Billion
- Upper Middle Class - Up to 50 Billion
- Rich/Super-Rich/1%? - Above 50 Billion
That is taking everything in to consideration.
RE: What is the lower/middle/upper-middle/super-rich classes of Sirius? - sindroms - 04-21-2018
Any freelancer ID is an extravagant entrepreneur who had enough income to obtain a spaceship. With guns.
We in terms of RP do not ever interact with the middle/lower class.
Unless you count what we transport as cargo in terms of refugees, slaves and other.
RE: What is the lower/middle/upper-middle/super-rich classes of Sirius? - Stolt. - 04-21-2018
(04-21-2018, 01:38 PM)sindroms Wrote: Any freelancer ID is an extravagant entrepreneur who had enough income to obtain a spaceship. With guns.
We in terms of RP do not ever interact with the middle/lower class.
Unless you count what we transport as cargo in terms of refugees, slaves and other.
Gonna play devil's advocate here. A lot of people are saying that the ones in space are all upper middle class inRP because space travel in Sirius is still very rare but here's the thing: If space travel is for the education/upper middle class or rich because those people are inRP the only ones with the resources to actually get into space to begin with, then why are there space pirates?
If you have to inRP be decently well off and educated to fly a spaceship, then why would these educated and/or reasonably wealthy individuals become pirates? You become a pirate to get money, why would you continue to be a pirate if you already have money?
RE: What is the lower/middle/upper-middle/super-rich classes of Sirius? - sindroms - 04-21-2018
(04-21-2018, 01:45 PM)Stolt. Wrote: If space travel is for the education/upper middle class or rich because those people are inRP the only ones with the resources to actually get into space to begin with, then why are there space pirates?
Because those are the people you want to rob? And not the poor?
RE: What is the lower/middle/upper-middle/super-rich classes of Sirius? - Shelco - 04-21-2018
I will always RP like this: Spaceships are like cars, there are high- and low-class ships but most people can have them. I don't necessarily treat the prices the same as inRP.
RE: What is the lower/middle/upper-middle/super-rich classes of Sirius? - Nerva Regis - 04-21-2018
(04-21-2018, 01:12 PM)St.Denis Wrote: Then possibly:I just found out I am middle-class. Welp, the more you know.
- Lower/Working Class - Less than a Billion
- Middle Class - Up to 10 Billion
- Upper Middle Class - Up to 50 Billion
- Rich/Super-Rich/1%? - Above 50 Billion
That is taking everything in to consideration.
Does this mean @St.Denis has his own category?
RE: What is the lower/middle/upper-middle/super-rich classes of Sirius? - LaWey - 04-21-2018
(04-21-2018, 02:28 PM)Nerva Regis Wrote:(04-21-2018, 01:12 PM)St.Denis Wrote: Then possibly:I just found out I am middle-class. Welp, the more you know.
- Lower/Working Class - Less than a Billion
- Middle Class - Up to 10 Billion
- Upper Middle Class - Up to 50 Billion
- Rich/Super-Rich/1%? - Above 50 Billion
That is taking everything in to consideration.
Does this mean @St.Denis has his own category?
Working Class - Unite! Expropriate money from oligarchs and share it!
RE: What is the lower/middle/upper-middle/super-rich classes of Sirius? - Wilfred - 04-21-2018
(04-21-2018, 01:45 PM)Stolt. Wrote: A lot of people are saying that the ones in space are all upper middle class inRP because space travel in Sirius is still very rare but here's the thing: If space travel is for the education/upper middle class or rich because those people are inRP the only ones with the resources to actually get into space to begin with, then why are there space pirates?
You probably don't need a very high education to learn how to fly a spaceship. The theory of spaceflight isn't terribly complicated, and just as most people can learn to drive a car or pilot an aircraft IRL, most people in Sirius can probably take a spaceflight certificate at a reasonable cost. It's a specific skill set.
(You might even be able to learn on your own, as long as you're careful not to bump into things.)
As for getting your hands on a ship, I think most people would likely start out with a cheap second-hand one (like Trent did), and pirates would simply steal their ships.
Spaceships in Freelancer are often compared to cars, but I'd say it's more like personal aircraft or recreational watercraft. So the Starflier would be like an autogyro/gyrocopter, or a small Cessna. The Sunburst would be like a fishing trawler or similar small commercial ship -- a big investment, but one that can get you big returns.
That the criminal organisations in Sirius have their own shiplines isn't entirely realistic, but they are fairly old organisations. When they started out, they probably used stolen civilian ships which were retrofitted with stronger hulls and heavier weapons, and over time their fleets were expanded with commandeered corporate ships and salvaged military hardware. Eventually they would've gotten to the point where they could start designing their own ships. Having political aims would also be a factor in this.
(04-21-2018, 01:45 PM)Stolt. Wrote: You become a pirate to get money, why would you continue to be a pirate if you already have money?
Because you want to get more money.
RE: What is the lower/middle/upper-middle/super-rich classes of Sirius? - Thunderer - 04-22-2018
A tonne of food costs how much? 400 credits? And I suppose that's the factory price, before it reaches the shops?
RE: What is the lower/middle/upper-middle/super-rich classes of Sirius? - Charo - 04-22-2018
iirc it's mentioned with vanilla FL that spaceships are like the modern day cars, so that's how I treat them. You can be poor and still own a basic fighter/freighter without any flair like armor. With bigger ships I usually play it like the pilot is contracted to fly it through a company/bank loan. I only treat transports as being owned if they're salvaged and put together or the owner is fairly wealthy