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SNAC - retnuh - 02-22-2009
' Wrote:Then gtho of Corsairs area, don't fly capships if you can't face that you'r not God in those ships. and i'v flyed a couple of Cruiser before and 1 bomber, 2 second ? Naw...maybe 3. But 1 bomber can definlity take down a Cruiser alone with some time and skill.
PS. Orin your siggy is awwwwsome:P
i know i'm not god, i set out expecting to be destoryed alot, and gtho of corsair sapce? like i said it was outside a freeport
' Wrote:I'm a good fighter pilot, and good gunboat pilots give me hives when I'm in a bomber.
As a cap pilot you just need to figure out when he's about to fire, and radically change your trajectory just as he lets the thing go. If he gets really close to guarantee his hits, you will punish him severely as he tries to get clear again. If he shoots from a distance, you have all the time in the world to simply move out of the way.
You will also notice bomber pilots in general start making stupid mistakes to land their shots, if you make them whiff 3-4 times in a row.
thanks for the advice, basically i was staionary when it happened so it made it slightly easier for him.
I was just giving my opinion, i take the point that balance comes before being realistic and that it would be hard to organise 5 bomber pilots to counter a cap, but personally i would rather just limit the number of caps rather than nerf them (even if it means loosing mine) p.s. i'm not bitter 'cos i pressed dock before i died, i'm just giving an opinion
SNAC - Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 02-22-2009
Short Solution
Spam missles
Spam as many blanking missles as you can
Six On Cruisers and ten on battleships
They wont last long.
That is if you want to be anti small ship, anywho.
SNAC - Kambei - 02-22-2009
well SNAC is second biggest mistake of Igis in this mod but there is too much SNAC user around so any changes or even deletinng of this gun are imposible to do.... my 2 cents.
' Wrote:Short Solution
Spam missles
Spam as many blanking missles as you can
Six On Cruisers and ten on battleships
They wont last long.
That is if you want to be anti small ship, anywho.
4 are enugh to kill everything smaller than gunboat:)
SNAC - Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 02-22-2009
yes, the SNAC is overpowered...
There should be some versions of them
about three possibly
A lighter, faster one that does less damage but a high projectile speed can get it to catch gunboats
A Medium in all aspects SNAC, medium damage, medium projectile speed.
A heavy SNAC, Slow proejctile speed, high damage.
SNAC - retnuh - 02-22-2009
Out of interest, what in your opinion Kambei is the other, biggest mistake?
if you have 3 versions of the SNAC, it might be a good idea, the mini-razor is kinda like a mini one already isn't it? (i'm ashamed to say since i'm commenting on their being overpowered yet i've never actually had a bomber myself)
SNAC - Kambei - 02-22-2009
' Wrote:Out of interest, what in your opinion Kambei is the other, biggest mistake?
caps aviable to all players
SNAC - Derkylos - 02-22-2009
I doubt it took "seconds". Even with a large planted bomber, a cruiser shield takes some 4 or 5 SNs to drop (which you are not gonna be firing off at their 0.25 refire rate, due to your energy regen rate), and then you have to worry about the shield coming back up.
Yes, a bomber can solo a cruiser through application of debs onto a recently-regened shield, but it is far from easy, especially if the cruiser is shooting back. Capship weapons are fast, and they hurt, coming within 600m to unload your debs is painful.
Please don't go around bemoaning the "overpoweredness" of SNs without getting in a bomber and trying to attack a battleship at least once. Once you do that, you will realise why SNs are as they are.
SNAC - Guest - 02-22-2009
I have a bomber, i have a SN, and by GOD i will be pissed if you nerf it as well. I do not WANT to buy a 900mil CAPITAL SHIP to take down your everyday bloody lolwutting BC
Quote:A lighter, faster one that does less damage but a high projectile speed can get it to catch gunboats
Its called a mini razor
SNAC - LA-384 - 02-22-2009
"the other day in my BH cruiser"
It's always the same people that complain. And it's obvious you got killed quickly, since you were outside a freeport, believing that no one could fire on you. So why dodge if you don't expect anything to happen. If you actually were dodging, the bomberpilot would probably have a harder time hitting you with sn.
And the sn isn't overpowered in my opinion. If it wasn't there, everyone would fly capital ships, since that's the only way to kill the opponent who's also flying a capital ship. Offcourse if capital ships were restricted to say 2-3 per official faction (so indies wouldn't be able to fly them), the need for supernova's would drop. But then the bomber becomes just an ultraheavy fighter, instead of an anticapital ship.
SNAC - retnuh - 02-22-2009
' Wrote:I doubt it took "seconds". Even with a large planted bomber, a cruiser shield takes some 4 or 5 SNs to drop (which you are not gonna be firing off at their 0.25 refire rate, due to your energy regen rate), and then you have to worry about the shield coming back up.
Yes, a bomber can solo a cruiser through application of debs onto a recently-regened shield, but it is far from easy, especially if the cruiser is shooting back. Capship weapons are fast, and they hurt, coming within 600m to unload your debs is painful.
Please don't go around bemoaning the "overpoweredness" of SNs without getting in a bomber and trying to attack a battleship at least once. Once you do that, you will realise why SNs are as they are.
it's a fair point, i said so myself i should really fly on the other side of the SNAC before i judge, and as for what happened, the shields did go down and the hull halfed in seconds, maybe i was mistaken and the cruisers did open up on me too, or maybe there was another bomber that i missed (the radar was full of red) but it did happen in seconds.