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RE: Shipline design survey: Zoner shipline - Thyrzul - 06-20-2020
(06-20-2020, 07:39 PM)Felsvar Wrote: Honestly, I would think Zoners would be building Utilitarian / Exploration ships other than Battleships / Juggernaught. They are not creating war to have heavy aresenal assets in their hands.
My response when he asked around on Discord:
Swallow 06/18/2020 11:15 PM
Then what do you think Zoner ships should look like (SHF, GB, Cr, BS, Colony ship, Whale)?
Thyrzul 06/18/2020 11:44 PM
Endurant, but harmless.
Swallow 06/18/2020 11:15 PM
Then what do you think Zoner ships should look like (SHF, GB, Cr, BS, Colony ship, Whale)?
Thyrzul 06/18/2020 11:44 PM
Endurant, but harmless.
RE: Shipline design survey: Zoner shipline - Doc Holliday - 06-20-2020
(06-20-2020, 08:49 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:(06-20-2020, 07:39 PM)Felsvar Wrote: Honestly, I would think Zoners would be building Utilitarian / Exploration ships other than Battleships / Juggernaught. They are not creating war to have heavy aresenal assets in their hands.
My response when he asked around on Discord:
Swallow 06/18/2020 11:15 PM
Then what do you think Zoner ships should look like (SHF, GB, Cr, BS, Colony ship, Whale)?
Thyrzul 06/18/2020 11:44 PM
Endurant, but harmless.
So make the Zoners even easier to control? I'm sure everyone else will love that.
RE: Shipline design survey: Zoner shipline - Swallow - 06-21-2020
For now the optimal solution seems to be making Aquilon into proper warship (BS for people who want to farm nomads, for instance), and Neph into proper colony ship (Super liner-like thing, like heavier Bustard, for people who want to RP a colony ship).
Further regulation could be made with ID/IFF if the need arises, I believe.
RE: Shipline design survey: Zoner shipline - HrabCOrp - 06-21-2020
A robust colony ship with extensive defense arrays
RE: Shipline design survey: Zoner shipline - Swallow - 06-21-2020
Maybe something like full destroyer turrets or full light battleship turrets.
RE: Shipline design survey: Zoner shipline - Save My Soul - 06-21-2020
Just remove all four heavy turret hardpoints and add one more primary and six secondaries. One to one for primary, and two to one for secondaries.
RE: Shipline design survey: Zoner shipline - Caelumaresh - 06-21-2020
(06-21-2020, 07:25 AM)Swallow Wrote: For now the optimal solution seems to be making Aquilon into proper warship (BS for people who want to farm nomads, for instance), and Neph into proper colony ship (Super liner-like thing, like heavier Bustard, for people who want to RP a colony ship)
This in my opinion feels like a good solution to the argument of people finding nephs farming nomads to be RP breaking.
The second part about the IFF and ID are in my opinion not needed.
RE: Shipline design survey: Zoner shipline - RedEclipse - 06-21-2020
(06-21-2020, 07:25 AM)Swallow Wrote: For now the optimal solution seems to be making Aquilon into proper warship (BS for people who want to farm nomads, for instance), and Neph into proper colony ship (Super liner-like thing, like heavier Bustard, for people who want to RP a colony ship).Better to keep means of Nephilim and defensive capabilities the same. Just like in vanilla intro colony ships managed to break though Coalition blockade, colony ship and its defensive capabilities is a vital part of survival. And same goes for Zoner Nephilims, they are supposed to be powerful and well armored against Nomads, who's not rare to be seen in Omicrons.
Further regulation could be made with ID/IFF if the need arises, I believe.
RE: Shipline design survey: Zoner shipline - HrabCOrp - 06-21-2020
(06-21-2020, 10:23 AM)Save My Soul Wrote: Just remove all four heavy turret hardpoints and add one more primary and six secondaries. One to one for primary, and two to one for secondaries.
+1, just make it like the carriers were back in the day as last resort
Edit: but I'd rather have my heavies if possible
RE: Shipline design survey: Zoner shipline - Thyrzul - 06-21-2020
(06-21-2020, 04:09 PM)RedEclipse Wrote: Just like in vanilla intro colony ships managed to break though Coalition blockade, colony ship and its defensive capabilities is a vital part of survival.
We are discussing a colony ship design for randoms living at the edge of civilized space, not a sleeper ship design for the major nations/houses. Keep that in mind.