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RE: JD4 and transports - Lemon - 10-01-2020
Ironically
My jump trading Bustard has more RP in the couple weeks it exists than most of my traders combined :]
RE: JD4 and transports - darkwind - 10-01-2020
(10-01-2020, 08:42 AM)Relation-Ship Wrote: Ironically
My jump trading Bustard has more RP in the couple weeks it exists than most of my traders combined :]
Because we jump between systems often concentrated with players
With missing all empty systems between.
Actually I can probably tell the same for my Bustard too. it is my the only transport that even has forum roleplay at all.
In any case proposal I suggest, will not make possible for ore traders to delivery their stuff without having 'full screensaver interaction'.
RE: JD4 and transports - Lemon - 10-01-2020
Ah yeah
That's true
Like when I do sarcelles runs through Zurich I hauled billions
And had probably 3 interactions on the way
5 if you include nb. Virtually nobody pirates those transit systems so you avoid RP naturally
RE: JD4 and transports - Binski - 10-01-2020
(10-01-2020, 08:21 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: Jump trading is inherently about making the maximum about of profit with the least interaction. IMO it should never be brought back in any capacity.
Limitations can keep it reasonable. A few transports per jumpship isn't crazy. A group of 5-6 transports would require 2 jumpships. To me, it was a thing you'd do in a space world that was enticing to people, got them to come and play here. Removing transports from being able to be jumped undoubtedly killed a great aspect to the mod. You really think it saved the server to have ruined jumping transports? It just ruined jumping on many people, who invested a lot in them for that purpose, which took a lot of regular trading. The solution was to sort it out, not axe it for those who only ever see worst case scenarios.
With the suggested changes, there would still be plenty of opportunity for interactions regardless of using jd's to jump small groups. Jump trading was a 2nd tier to trading/supplying, and made a lot of sense that it be something to be earned.
(10-01-2020, 08:49 AM)darkwind Wrote:(10-01-2020, 08:42 AM)Relation-Ship Wrote: Ironically
My jump trading Bustard has more RP in the couple weeks it exists than most of my traders combined :]
Because we jump between systems often concentrated with players
With missing all empty systems between.
Actually I can probably tell the same for my Bustard too. it is my the only transport that even has forum roleplay at all.
In any case proposal I suggest, will not make possible for ore traders to delivery their stuff without having 'full screensaver interaction'.
Sure but like how much can you haul? 1200 units of cargo at most? with a cost of 4.5 mil per jump? Is it cheaper if you use a JD3? Jump trading with a bustard for small amounts is possible but not very practical.
I envison using Bustards to offer jumps to small groups of ships seeking ore. You could jump them to the ore field to meet a miner, or bring one. They still sit there to fill up. Once done, they jump out. How long does it take to fill 3 transports, then charge a few mins for a jump? Mining is mining, and it only takes a CD to interrupt a jump. Seems like plenty of time to go pirate a group while mining.
And on the other end, the group arrives at the destination, and is there for several minutes. But in theory, if notices go out of the jumps and their locations, eventually ships may be in or near that system waiting. They say it avoids certain territory, but you can't avoid your origin and destination. For the cost you should be able to earn that small jump convoy ability. There are plenty of reasons to bring people all over the server for various commodities, giving plenty of chances for interaction.
RE: JD4 and transports - RedEclipse - 10-01-2020
(10-01-2020, 08:21 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: Jump trading is inherently about making the maximum about of profit with the least interaction. IMO it should never be brought back in any capacity.Amen.
RE: JD4 and transports - Groshyr - 10-01-2020
Maybe make special liners, capable to mount and use JD? Perhaps make them fragile, slow, huge, defenseless. This is what I'd like to have in the case of jumptrading and jumpsupplying.
RE: JD4 and transports - Matthews - 10-01-2020
(10-01-2020, 12:28 PM)Groshyr Wrote: Maybe make special liners, capable to mount and use JD? Perhaps make them fragile, slow, huge, defenseless. This is what I'd like to have in the case of jumptrading and jumpsupplying.Sooo... a barge? xD
RE: JD4 and transports - Groshyr - 10-01-2020
Barge is a mistake of development and design, that should be removed for good and never ever to be used again :rage:
RE: JD4 and transports - Matthews - 10-01-2020
Ye that was irony
. But you gotta admit, your description fits.
RE: JD4 and transports - Groshyr - 10-01-2020
Unfortunately you are indeed right. Barge's concept is a good one but the way it was made...