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What is keeping you from playing? - Printable Version +- Discovery Gaming Community (https://discoverygc.com/forums) +-- Forum: Discovery General (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: Discovery RP 24/7 General Discussions (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=23) +--- Thread: What is keeping you from playing? (/showthread.php?tid=189161) |
RE: What is keeping you from playing? - pillow - 08-02-2021 chuba and haste summarized it pretty well for me i still think the game has an infinite amount of potential and we're finally stepping (albeit sometimes diagonally) on the right path just hope a player influx is gonna happen soon cus halo's around the corner so i might vanish off the face of the earth for a few months RE: What is keeping you from playing? - Lemon - 08-02-2021 Well - game can feel like a second job, IRL takes precedent. Groshyr makes a good point that other games are probably better for iRL. And it's very straightforward to make factions and entire houses very much alive, just takes a lot of work. The game needs more Megs Creeds Slappys etc. that constantly come up with ideas to make people play the game. People need to take responsibility to generate activity, but sometimes really if the same effort would be pointed towards IRL one has to wonder why not direct that it that way instead. @Chuba PvP is outdated and can't compete with modern games let's face it - people log off from people like Chuba because they have zero chance at success and in any modern game him and a newer or even above average guy would never meet even in PvP setting. The PvP game landscape has changed over recent years, almost every game has some sort of matchmaking and disco can't compete unless there's good will of people that matchmake manually. Which most of the time there is not. Some ace guy got even offended that I would even suggest to oorp PM to balance sides before meeting, and don't join signup events that can be roughly balanced, so there's that. In most modern PvP games it's normal to hover around 45-55 % winrate ratios as the matchmaking manipulates the games that way (well I have experience with Dota2 mostly), regardless of skill level. Disco doesn't have that = PvP will be always second fiddle long run as weaker guys and groups and entire player bases on one side get constantly roflstomped and start avoiding fights sooner or later. RE: What is keeping you from playing? - Gardarik - 08-02-2021 Here is my perspective of a player who quit (hopefully, for good) a few days ago having given away all the stuff I had:
This will conclude my small rant. I hope it will be insightful to some of you. I also wish you all best of luck on disco or in other activities! Cheers for the fun time here! RE: What is keeping you from playing? - diamond1 - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 07:25 AM)Gardarik Wrote: Here is my perspective of a player who quit (hopefully, for good) a few days ago having given away all the stuff I had: without 5 and 3, it's quite the same. i can't be royally damned to play a game with everything i do backfiring in hopes to generate activity for myself. Except in this case, i haven't quit. i'm just taking a break until more things to do come. Frankly i've seen what this mod is capable of,and it does have more potential than it's being given for, but when it's the same repeditive pvp event and lackluster determination to find people to go around to do things with, without having to contact through another social medium to set up a playdate and not to mention in the wrong timezone for activity? Kinda a killer mood there. I've achieved finally what i've wanted after almost 6 years and now what? i've driven the barge which was my ultimate goal, but until i find something tasty to sink myself into - i'm going to sit back and watch. I want to play discovery, i have a good time with people. but when it's torturous having to try so hard and more than i normally try in a day to day basis just to get the space sim fill, it's practically impossible. Hell, i'm a person who HATES pvp with a passion, but it even got to the point i tried to not use dual novas like i normally do, and use normal guns after 5 and a half years of playing this game like a normal person ( ping reasons ), and still not a thing. I'm not making a blame game out of this, it's just frustrating and pointless to try right now and it wears me out mentally just trying. RE: What is keeping you from playing? - Lemon - 08-02-2021 Yeah number one is a big deal - you click a button, wait 5 minutes and are in action 5v5 etc. With balanced teams and know you will win around half the time in the long run no matter what skill level you at. The systems are getting more and more sophisticated, faster and better at making people have incentive to play by manipulating their winrate in modern games. It's just the way it is and because of 5. Is hard to mimic e.g. manually by leaders of hostile factions cooperating a balancing sides with skill difference taken into account. Some good points brought up there with 2-4,6 too, many are what I see mentioned by guys in my factions that don't log as much. 6. Being an issue always RE: What is keeping you from playing? - Erremnart - 08-02-2021 I love Freelancer (that's why I am still coming back) and especially RP aspect in it. That keeps me engaged and willing to try. I also like the work of the devs in their quest to make Disco more enjoyable mechanics wise and I think that they did a great job given our options. So, what's the problem you may ask if everything looks nice and dandy? The answer is lack of interesting encounters for me. I am a large fan (or nerd) of RP, I've run a lot of tabletop RPG games, I have played other MMOs on RP server, etc; and I like to develop my characters. If I can predict that 90% of my ingame encounters will be '/1 /2 /shoot', I can play it only for a limited time before I get bored of the same things over and over again. But that's just my point of view and I completely understand that other people are okay with that and all power to them to keep this interesting project running. The main issue for me is general lack of story arc. It feels that most, if not all, factions just exist in here and are bound to their territory and established lore. It feels static and meaningless. It feels like wasted opportunity given the fact how violent FL universe is and how many option story-wise it offers - Economy crashes, stock market crashes, rising tensions between Houses, diplomatic and military incidents, accusations over the media, ultimatums and similar things can be done for unlawfuls. They are mostly ruthless criminals after all and such environment is rarely static. No political entity is seizing initiative to further their geopolitical goals (or astropolitical goals?). If such things already happen in game, they are barely visible for casual observer. The goal of any storytellers, no matter the RPG form, is to make environment and story interesting for player characters first and foremost. Given the fact how most of the Freelancer PvP servers died already - I believe that Discovery's main focus should be good and compelling story to keep players engaged, backed by balanced and fun gameplay. RE: What is keeping you from playing? - sasapinjic - 08-02-2021 I guess people stop playing because they grow bored trying to kill invincible guys who just fly in circles. RE: What is keeping you from playing? - Reno - 08-02-2021 Don't want to make a wall of text. Its Nostalgia! Nothing! That is all, Reno RE: What is keeping you from playing? - sindroms - 08-02-2021 At some point in time you look at the online number and go "Oh, it looks like it is too early. I will log in later." And then never do. RE: What is keeping you from playing? - Selken - 08-02-2021 The game is fucking boring. I made the chars but there's nothing to do. I don't have one char in every system so if people are 30 mins away from my ships I'll just log off and do something else. If I made the journey; after every minute of me not being there the chance of activity dispersing increases, and if I even got to the system they might be in some obscure location I don't know about. I took large breaks from the game and can't PvP the way I used to, I don't want to spend all day in conn so finding equal competition is rare. And when it does happen and it's over it can take hours before I get another fight. Things in systems keep getting moved around to where I'm tabbing in and out looking at online nav maps. Which makes travelling tedious. I get that the mod is called "Discovery" and there are lots of cool things to discover. But after finding the two easter egg systems in vanilla FL I'm done with discovering. I want to discover some interactions I guess everything boils down to the sad player count I'd spend hours on 4.85 disco because building up ships for interactions was meaningful. Now events and combat situations have to be planned in advanced to get anything interesting in the server to happen I genuinely used to hate the forums but now I find the forums more interesting than the game because at least things happen here. |