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Announcement: House Governments - Printable Version +- Discovery Gaming Community (https://discoverygc.com/forums) +-- Forum: Discovery General (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: News and Announcements (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=13) +--- Thread: Announcement: House Governments (/showthread.php?tid=199912) |
RE: Announcement: House Governments - Egon Bigmemes - 10-25-2023 because the staff has a stellar record of getting regular requests done in a timely manner, let alone voting on mounds of mundane shit handled by player governments get ready for 3 month waits on your requests kids EDIT this is especially dumb considering how extremely scarce official factions are in houses now. libgov has thirteen (13!) people who handle votes, where if you dumb it down to official factions only, it'll become 3? 4? people. RE: Announcement: House Governments - LunaticOnTheGrass - 10-25-2023 Not bad RE: Announcement: House Governments - The_Godslayer - 10-25-2023 (10-25-2023, 08:29 PM)Connor Wrote: Put in a player request for your unban.nah, this my pride and joy ![]() @Emperor Tekagi Also, doesn't this seem like a good moment to sell your soul to the godslayer? Shake a poor sinners hand? RE: Announcement: House Governments - Emperor Tekagi - 10-25-2023 (10-25-2023, 08:30 PM)Tenshi Wrote: I second that this is a change that should've came a long time now, but I think it'd be a lot healthier to either make the Government consist of both the 1ic and 2ic of an OF. In addition to that, if either the 1ic or 2ic of a faction isn't able to take up that spot (reduced activity for example) they should have the ability to be replaced with a faction representative instead after their written agreement. A system in place elsewhere too. Kherty pointed out how Gallia approached it. Kusari also had "who is respected across factions, unofficials and OFs" as approach. Both Gallia and Kusari had transparency on membership. I agree with the 1ic + 2ic approach and the full exclusion of unofficials is just a bad move imho. Some of these never desired officialdom yet worked together with the rest of their house, now they're ending up practically forced to pursue officialdom to have a proper voice. RE: Announcement: House Governments - Lucas - 10-25-2023 people always complain about not having a reason to be official, now they complain about having to be official. Only in Discovery man RE: Announcement: House Governments - SnakThree - 10-25-2023 Why can't bad decisions by governments be judged on case by case basis? Instead this will be put under blanket supervision that will prolong changes and triple the efforts required to do even the smallest amount of roleplay. How will this play out, if staff thinks that random non-house POB near X planet should be approved? This is another push towards staff having absolute oversight over everything. Maybe start sponsoring Government bounty boards too? Next up, imagine having to go through supervision for every single minor post, including: this or that RE: Announcement: House Governments - Prysin - 10-25-2023 Watch as DHC gets no representation
RE: Announcement: House Governments - Kherty - 10-25-2023 As a lot of replies has been posted; please let me add my questions which have been edited (to add new questions), as a member of one of these Governments, it is my duty to make things clearer so that I can relay, and edit the rules governing our modus operandi (since we welcome all factions about the House in the government (while following the rules, naturally)) I said earlier Wrote: I am also afraid of requests being delayed unnecessarily because of this. Licenses-giving is a system we have went for, after convening with the Assembly, and ruled it as the new approach for the Government. Therefore, I am afraid this will make license-giving a lot more difficult, and slow. If you can revise this, by, I don't know, allowing members of the government to allow said license giving, then, make the government account edit it after RE: Announcement: House Governments - Haste - 10-25-2023 I am not personally opposed to some kind of system that allows "valuable" unofficial factions participate. Writing it into rules is the somewhat challenging part. I do however have a hot take (partially courtesy of Karst) to share on the whole 1ic / 2ic "problem": if your 1ic isn't willing to have a gov role in a Discord chat somewhere and work with the rest of their House to get stuff done, perhaps they're not that well-suited to being your faction's OFL. RE: Announcement: House Governments - Egon Bigmemes - 10-25-2023 (10-25-2023, 08:35 PM)Emperor Tekagi Wrote: I agree with the 1ic + 2ic approach and the full exclusion of unofficials is just a bad move imho. Some of these never desired officialdom yet worked together with the rest of their house, now they're ending up practically forced to pursue officialdom to have a proper voice. this here. most of these people in libgov are not in official factions (or leading at all) theyre people who are extremely familiar with liberty and various aspects of it. staff already dealt with 'controversial' decisions by just saying no, so now youre just going to cut the amount of people involved down massively and stick your notoriously glacial fingers into what is often just sifting through POB, ship, and tech requests? please. (10-25-2023, 08:36 PM)Lucas Wrote: people always complain about not having a reason to be official, now they complain about having to be official. Only in Discovery manhaving to deal with staff is not a good reason to become official |