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Battleships- a solution - hribek - 09-02-2009
No, I think it should stay the way it is. Really. If there's a storyline reason to remove a ship, so be it. Otherwise, this shouldn't be BossAroundLancer.
I'd start with removing the Order Heavy Battlecruiser, if we're to restrict anything depending on size.
As always, I'd like to ask - what led you to the creation of this question? Any particular cases that could serve as an example, so that we can understand your motives without the obscuring generalization? Because from where I stand, a Liberty dreadnought is something completely different than, say, a Togo or a Spyglass. Or the Xeno Battleship.
Battleships- a solution - Tenacity - 09-02-2009
I actually think this should be done for any ship larger than a cruiser - to include battlecruisers, carriers, and battleships. Cruisers are "harmless" enough that giving indies free access to them wouldnt be an issue, they're significantly weaker now than they were in 4.84. The larger ships though, definitely need to be restricted.
Battleships- a solution - Sprolf - 09-02-2009
I agree with letting the factions decide on what indies get ships with a Freighter Class Ten Mount.
(Which goes from Battleships to Battlecruisers to Carriers to Juggernauts to the Light Carrier. The mount can be shield or gun. I think it's simple to say "anything with a Class Ten Freighter Mount should be restricted." Correct me if that's an oversight of some sort.)
Battleships- a solution - atlantis2112 - 09-02-2009
Quote:Or the Xeno Battleship.
There's a Xeno Battleship?!
I voted certain RP indies and factions.
Battleships- a solution - Tenacity - 09-02-2009
Here's an idea...
Each official faction has an armory right? Why dont we make any ship with a class ten shield require, by server rules, a battleship license. Remove the ability to purchase battleship licenses from any station in the game, and have the admins give each faction armory a number of battleship licenses.
The faction can then hand these out to players they trust. Anyone who buys a ship that requires one of these licenses, but doesnt have the license, can be sanctioned, or openly attacked by that faction's members. Factions could choose whether or not to charge for these licenses in order to keep their armory's credits up.
Battleships- a solution - guitarguy - 09-02-2009
I voted #2
It could solve some problems, but cruisers and battlecruisers would become the new battleships, so really you're just forcing "capwhores" into slightly smaller ships. Also, what about unofficial factions, and who has the time and is unbiased enough to decide which indies get battleships? Finally, we'd most likely have to give some kind of financial compensation to those who have to sell their battleship.
Battleships- a solution - atlantis2112 - 09-02-2009
Quote:Factions could choose whether or not to charge for these licenses in order to keep their armory's credits up.
Doesn't that mean we could get official-faction extortion? And why are they just given in essence, free credits?
Battleships- a solution - Ceoran - 09-02-2009
Concerning the question who decides about it I would keep it simple and let the appropriate official faction decide (House military, the police isn't allowed to fly caps anyway if I'm right). If there are more than one around they should have something like a committee to decide together. For the outcasts it would be the Council of Dons and on the Corsair side that would be a job for the Elders.
Battleships- a solution - JIVA - 09-02-2009
"no", cause the mod is about the freedom of choice and to shape the roleplay regardless of a restriction of ships.
when someone can restrict me from a ship - he can also restrict me from a roleplay i wish to play. - who knows if someone is a good roleplayer as a battleship captain but a lousy one as a bomberpilot. - but we wouldn t find out if we locked out one of the options at the start.
so far, the community has not proved itself to be capable of being objective and fair to everyone - and i don t see that happen in the future. - bias and favourism, popularity and jumping the bandwaggon are common behaviours. - thats nothing particularly bad - ... its just what usually happens.
but unless we have a FAIR and objective group to judge over the deserving and the undeserving, i d always vote for "no".
so far, factions even failed to offer transparency in their decisions - leaving more questions asked than questions answered.
as a matter of fact - such a restriction is the very same as to say:
" give factions the supernova cannon - and leave the nova torpedo to non-factionized .... but for approved and really nice non-factionized, there are a few supernovas in stock "
would we do that? - or only cause we fear the "actually non existant" cap-spam. ( there are many caps - but the term "too many" is subjective )
Battleships- a solution - Unseelie - 09-03-2009
Bomber Rp and Battleship RP may well be different, yes.
But the difference between cruiser RP and battleship RP?
I fail to understand that. Of course, I'm a transport pilot, and don't fly any capitalships. What could I know?