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Sabre Weapon Systems - Fellow Hoodlum - 06-13-2007
Doom is correct, it still is the only fighter with a forward firing turret, has been since the dawn of time. Though
bringing it and the other guns to bear on anything else, with its current manouverability is getting hard.
The Titan, usually the carrier of the 'slow old bus' crown, turns way better now, with more armour.
The hardpoint issue ... The wing mounted guns get blown off a whole bunch faster than the fuselage mounted
ones, I'd prefer my level 10's to stay right where they are.
Hoodlum
Sabre Weapon Systems - Doom - 06-13-2007
for that u don't need to move hard points...it is only matter of editing some lines in shiparch.ini file...
Sabre Weapon Systems - Nightfall - 06-13-2007
However the thought of an extra pair of guns sounds good, they're OK imo.
Just some maneuverability is much needed. The Sabre is getting outturned by most of the fighters out there - even the Nephthys and Titan and every other House MKII VHF.
Gun placement is perfect as it is.
Sabre Weapon Systems - majkp - 06-13-2007
Well I think Sabre can't be outturned by Titan and I don't know where you guys get it from.
The Titan is twice as heavy as the Sabre, so it accelerates and strafes slower. The same should apply to maneuverability, but I am not a modder myself...
Sabre
hit_pts = 11200
mass = 75.000000
steering_torque = 43000.000000, 43000.000000, 60000.000000
angular_drag = 41000.000000, 41000.000000, 41000.000000
rotation_inertia = 8400.000000, 8400.000000, 4400.000000
Titan
hit_pts = 13500
mass = 150.000000
steering_torque = 43000.000000, 43000.000000, 155000.000000
angular_drag = 41000.000000, 41000.000000, 141000.000000
rotation_inertia = 8400.000000, 8400.000000, 8400.000000
Sabre Weapon Systems - Eppy - 06-13-2007
Oh, god, I forgot about the subgroup damage:shok:!
Either way, I still think it's a good idea. I'll live without the gun changes, but agility and powerplant need some help. Maybe a little armor nudgey-nudgey, too.
And now, this, whih is off-topic, but I wanted to see if it would work:
:offtopic:
EDIT: Crap, it didn't work. I know there's a wierd little emoticon with a big "Off Topic" sign, Onca used it once. Anybody know how?
Sabre Weapon Systems - Dab - 06-13-2007
Off-topic:
Find Virus' Emoticon post in the flood forum. Thats where it can be found. Not a natural board emoticon.
Sabre Weapon Systems - Eppy - 06-13-2007
Off-Topic-Thanks. Now I can expand my natural powers of weirdness.
Sabre Weapon Systems - Nightfall - 06-13-2007
' Wrote:Well I think Sabre can't be outturned by Titan and I don't know where you guys get it from.Majk, I know the numbers. They puzzle me too, but look at the steering torque and the angular drag. Not to mention I had to use every trick I know to be even close to match your turning.
The Titan is twice as heavy as the Sabre, so it accelerates and strafes slower. The same should apply to maneuverability, but I am not a modder myself...
Sabre
hit_pts = 11200
mass = 75.000000
steering_torque = 43000.000000, 43000.000000, 60000.000000
angular_drag = 41000.000000, 41000.000000, 41000.000000
rotation_inertia = 8400.000000, 8400.000000, 4400.000000
Titan
hit_pts = 13500
mass = 150.000000
steering_torque = 43000.000000, 43000.000000, 155000.000000
angular_drag = 41000.000000, 41000.000000, 141000.000000
rotation_inertia = 8400.000000, 8400.000000, 8400.000000
A maneuverability increase would be most welcome.
As for the rest... Epyon, please reconsider what are you saying.
Sabre Weapon Systems - majkp - 06-14-2007
I was trying every trick too...:)
There is a way to find out, and I will do it when I have some time - target a sun and count how many turns the ship does in one minute.
<end of off-topic> (sorry Epyon)
Sabre Weapon Systems - Eppy - 06-14-2007
Reconsider which part? The armor, the agility, the hardpoints, the powerplant, or my continuous hijacking of my own thread?