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Beliefs, Internet and Laws. - Kazinsal - 06-20-2010
' Wrote:And saying everything I'd want to would have the majority of the forums mob-mentality-hating me.Amen, brother.
Beliefs, Internet and Laws. - n00bl3t - 06-20-2010
' Wrote:I have lots of things I'd like to say using my freedom of speech. Too bad I like my posting privileges.
Ain't that the truth.
Beliefs, Internet and Laws. - Elvin - 06-20-2010
Definitely not. No. I hate racism, yet on internet, everyone is hero, idiots are bright, genius turns into retard....
Half of planet should be arrested or killed, if everything said on the net would be "true" and meant seriously. Of course I don't know anything about this one case. Especially cos I can't speak french.
I dislike those things tho, internet is becomming way too controlled, things you write, read and store on your computer aren't private anymore, and hey, it's not a worm, it's police and goverment whose checking your things.
Beliefs, Internet and Laws. - bobby - 06-20-2010
' Wrote:Ain't that the truth.
Private website.
In other words, unless Igiss and the Mod team wants you to, you don't have freedom of speech here.
:nyam:
Beliefs, Internet and Laws. - mwerte - 06-20-2010
For the first one, hate speech should not be covered under the principle of "Free speech", especially when it contains content that incites violence against others. In this instance, I believe that it would be no different then printing up flyers and handing them out. Although easy to crumple up and ignore, the hate speech should not be permitted.
In the second case, it's more subjective, if he is promoting Nazism as a form of government (i.e. fascism) then that is what "Free Speech" was designed to protect. Alternate views of how to run the government, criticism of the government, and attempts to persuade people for a change in government. BUT, if, like the first example, he is promoting Nazi "Final Solution" and hate against Jews, Slavs, Russians, Gypsies, ect, then that should not be tolerated.
It is a very fine line, and one that gets crossed far too frequently by governments trying to consolidate their own power, and a line that shifts and moves irregularly.
And that is without looking at the legal questions of where the servers are, where the viewings happened, ect ect.
Beliefs, Internet and Laws. - Thommy - 06-20-2010
If it is their belief that they should f*** children or commit genocide, then yes.
EDIT: also, kill people for their enjoyment
Beliefs, Internet and Laws. - kalimero2 - 06-20-2010
"Daddy? Are jews realy that bad?" .... freedom of speech need borders but they have to be clear and stable. Human society is still not evolved yet enough to live in total freedom. WWII, comunism, jihad etc... humans are idots and catchy retarded ideas like killing someone only because whatever reason should be blocked by law.
By the way. Situation with freedom of speach in EU is realy realy bad right now (ok not everywhere... for example my country is fine in this case) and this is starting to be scary. Now you can't freely say even obvious things like "Mohamed was a warlord"......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G__tqz1Ar8...player_embedded
Beliefs, Internet and Laws. - Tenacity - 06-20-2010
When your actions, whether in real life or over the internet, bring physical or psychological harm to another human being, you should be held accountable, and yes, arrested if need be.
However, people are arrested every day for things that bring no harm to others, and that's where I have a problem. In those cases, it isnt the individuals expressing themselves who are in the wrong, but those authorities that are suppressing them and their beliefs.
Beliefs, Internet and Laws. - jetblack357 - 06-20-2010
No, the internet itself is for displaying what you think to everyone else in the world, whether its right or wrong, ive seen plenty of facebook, youtube, and myspace accounts that I completely disagree with but that doesn't mean that the owners of them deserve to be arrested, they are just stating their beliefs, if nobody agrees with them they can just go look at some of the other billions of web pages there are.
Beliefs, Internet and Laws. - lw'nafh - 06-20-2010
Freedom of speech, is, well, a 'generic' human right, as is freedom of EXPRESSION. Okay, we may not like what some people believe in, (and I sure as hell don't believe in Neo-Nazism), but it isn't -my- right, well, it is my right to say I don't like it, but it isn't my right to tell someone they can't believe in it, nor is it anyone else's. Unless a country has law against said beliefs, there isn't anything they can really do, and even then... that violates freedom of expression.
The internet is impossible to regulate, people need to get off that one, the internet, sadly, is probably one of the last bastions of true freedom of expression, simply because no one can own it, and no one ever will.
Random off-topic comment; We've come a long way from A.R.P.A.N.E.T.
That's my two cents.