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Marsflyer - Igiss - 01-18-2006
This math is very cool, but did you try to mount a couple of Tizonas on a Marsflyer, or avoid counting Tizonas for Sabre? Then results would be much more... representative. Don't you think?
No one forces you to leave initial weapons on Marsflyer.
And thanks for counting, I'm too lazy to compare ships the way you've done.
Marsflyer - Virus - 01-19-2006
Well..... A Marsflyer is coolest with all the original guns on it. :(
And Tizonas are visible, so there would be two weird guns sticking out of the stem.
As for making a Saber with no Tizonas... That's just stupid. There is no better choice for the two class 9 mounts. That means you can't put 6 codenames. :(
Marsflyer - Igiss - 01-19-2006
Well, yes, you are probably right...
Maybe it's worth to make Tizona a level 10 gun, or make two versions of it, one level 9 less powerful than now and second level 10 more powerful. Or just make Marsflyer's weapons deal more damage against shields.
Marsflyer - Virus - 01-19-2006
I vote the third option. Increase Marsflyer shield damage a good bit, and add a torp mount. :)
I've been saying that since the begining. Maybe slightly more hull damage, but its not THAT bad currently.
EDIT: Forgot the word Damage. :)
Marsflyer - Caribe - 01-19-2006
Virus,Jan 16 2006, 02:50 PM Wrote:And, is there a way I could find the original Marsflyer? I would like to see what it had.
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I remember being in a mod that that had it (i dont know if it was the original or not) but you could destroy a BS in 2 rounds of fire.
I left that place because it later got boring to just spray a bit in space (about 1 sec with your finger on the mouse) just to wipeout an entire fleet before they even moved.
Marsflyer - Igiss - 01-19-2006
Quote:And Tizonas are visible, so there would be two weird guns sticking out of the stem.That's why I don't like the idea of torp mount (and that's why authors did not include it): torps are visible too.
I will increase both hull and shield damage of this ship.
Marsflyer - daedalus - 01-19-2006
Virus,Jan 18 2006, 11:17 PM Wrote:This is a comparison between the Marsflyer and a fully loaded Saber. :)You don't mention that the Flyer runs out of energy very quickly, making it even worse. It's difficult to make comparisons like this as the powerplant makes a big difference.
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Marsflyer - Dab - 01-19-2006
Either change the damage or power. Upgrading both will make it into a super fighter again. Also the Manuverability is better than an eagle so you might want to cut that down a bit if your increasing the damage output. Also in my fight against Virus' Marsflyer we did a couple head to heads and almost every time I lost more shielding than he did. Increase hull damage but not shield damage.
Marsflyer - Virus - 01-19-2006
Dab, you you strafed, maybe you wouldn't get hit with a straight line of chain gun fire. I didn't notice that.
And deadalus is right, he Marsflyer does lose energy rather quickly for them being chain guns.
Hmm..... Maybe there would be a way to make a hole in the Marsflyer so the torpedo could mount in there.... I dunno.
Making the Marsflyer powerful, but lowered agility would mean people would put the guns on other ships. Hmm....
I don't know what to do. I was thinking a little more shield damage and a torp would even it with other fighters, but the torp mount would be visible. Maybe you could make the new launchers invisible on all ships. Is that even possible? If so, I don't think anyone would mind.
Marsflyer - Virus - 01-20-2006
I have a question, how was it made so on the RH bomber the torp launchers are invisible? Maybe the same tactic could be used to hide a torp mount on a Marsflyer. That's all I think it needs.
And as I've said before, make it a mini-battleship people will simply strip it for parts.