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You're nicked mate - Yerland - 03-24-2011
I think the -1.0 FR5 is too much,
1. Smugglers don't make any more money than normal traders in the first place.
2. Some cops will harass you if you have a smuggler ID even if your not doing anything illigal
3. If you get more than one -1.0 FR5 there is not really much you can do on the character
4. the -9.0 either costs finding the right bribe (can take awhile) or killing a lot of the right npc (also takes alwhile).
You're nicked mate - sadtranslation - 03-24-2011
What is really needed is a good and commonly known way to lift the rephack for the smuggler. It will encourage them to communicate with Police factions (preferably) - that way giving both sides some specific and unique roleplay. And bribes, bribes, bribes, running from Tie-fighters and carrying rebels under the fake floor.
You're nicked mate - ryoken - 03-24-2011
Problem with Smuggler ID is "YOU CAN"T RP IT" To RP a smuggler means contact,contact means your caught,and caught means FR5. So basically a Smuggler ID is now an Avoid RP ID. That is why every smuggler now is using junker ID's. So they will always be able to land on Junker bases no matter what lawful catches them. Just do not be stupid enough to go and land on junker base if lawful's are chasing you. Then even Congress will FR5 you.
Right now basically Smuggler ID means avoid TL's,and all other players. All players,because as proved in sanction/RF5 reports even a freelancer can screen your cargo,send to lawful,and get you FR5'd. BS yes,but it has been done.
You're nicked mate - sadtranslation - 03-24-2011
I often ran into Slaver IDed players and Smuggler IDed players using the tradelanes with illegal cargo. But what's the point in it? It's the shortest way to frustration for one of sides at least. Police and Military get a confusing situation, Smuggler and Slaver get shot most of the times But, uh, players provoke all that.
Acting like a an amateur in risky business is wrong and won't bring you the desired roleplay, it will bring you frustration.
In the meanwhile, Smuggler IDed player gets a lot of roleplay opportunities if got caught. But if he starts to run, he is doomed.
Try lying to law-enforcers, lie beautifully and they will fall in love with the baloney you give to them. There are players who want some good roleplay behind the other ships as well, keep that in mind.
You're nicked mate - ryoken - 03-24-2011
' Wrote:I often ran into Slaver IDed players and Smuggler IDed players using the tradelanes with illegal cargo. But what's the point in it? It's the shortest way to frustration for one of sides at least. Police and Military get a confusing situation, Smuggler and Slaver get shot most of the times But, uh, players provoke all that.
Acting like a an amateur in risky business is wrong and won't bring you the desired roleplay, it will bring you frustration.
In the meanwhile, Smuggler IDed player gets a lot of roleplay opportunities if got caught. But if he starts to run, he is doomed.
Try lying to law-enforcers, lie beautifully and they will fall in love with the baloney you give to them. There are players who want some good roleplay behind the other ships as well, keep that in mind.
Hmm you never been caught in Liberty,or rheinland. They demand cargo drop/fine,and then FR5 you. RP means crap all to them. Their first response is to run to forums,and tag you hostile. Even if a merc/BH/Freelancer scan you. You get FR5'd. So why even bother with Smuggler ID? Smuggling pays no more then legal cargo's,but you have to avoid TL's/players or all your possible landing zones get taken away.
You're nicked mate - Stuart.croll - 03-24-2011
' Wrote:No, they don't give out sanctions, they REQUEST an FR5.Yes . We know this but nothing is set in stone is it?
In order to do that, they need to fill in the appropriate 'paper work' and give it to the Admins for a review.
IF and that's a BIG "if", there is enough evidence to support the request, then it happens.
All of that happens AFTER a roleplay fitting the situation is worked out. To quote a quote from a previous post;
Before people ask, no, I'm not an Admin, I've just been around long enough to make a pretty good guess at how some of the procedures around here work.
To answer the OP, as someone else has mentioned, Bastille doesn't exist in the RP for this server, it is only there as a place to put people who are causing problems on the server.
Recent developments make it obvious that this is quite a fluid environment we are dealing with here.
Good grief I'm drunk.
Please cancel my last sanctimonious statement :crazy:
You're nicked mate - Wulven - 03-24-2011
If they put this sort of thing into action they will have to space rocket smuggling goods, so that it will pay off for the danger and risks.
You're nicked mate - Stuart.croll - 03-24-2011
' Wrote:If they put this sort of thing into action they will have to space rocket smuggling goods, so that it will pay off for the danger and risks.Which sort of thing?
Just having to lay off a character for a day or two is far less hassle than having to spend hours rep adjusting I think.
To me rep adjusting is the stuff you have to get out of the way before you can actually start to enjoy playing. Yes I said playing because this is in fact a game. (Allegedly)
Just covered all bases there incase it's sanctionable to dispute the accepted thing, stuff, wharrevver.
You're nicked mate - sadtranslation - 03-24-2011
' Wrote:Hmm you never been caught in Liberty,or rheinland. They demand cargo drop/fine,and then FR5 you. RP means crap all to them. Their first response is to run to forums,and tag you hostile. Even if a merc/BH/Freelancer scan you. You get FR5'd. So why even bother with Smuggler ID? Smuggling pays no more then legal cargo's,but you have to avoid TL's/players or all your possible landing zones get taken away.
There is only one Freelancer that works for Rheinland Military. And, eh, for all the time flying for a Police I never saw a Smuggler that will try to roleplay his way out. At the same time, most of the Smugglers tried to run and got shot in result. Running is really not the best thing you can do. Smuggler should avoid the lawfuls, bribe them, lie to them, not ask for being shot.
Uh, just let me know, what the Police should do with criminals? Dance mazurka? Hey-ho.
You're nicked mate - Stuart.croll - 03-24-2011
' Wrote:There is only one Freelancer that works for Rheinland Military. And, eh, for all the time flying for a Police I never saw a Smuggler that will try to roleplay his way out. At the same time, most of the Smugglers tried to run and got shot in result. Running is really not the best thing you can do. Smuggler should avoid the lawfuls, bribe them, lie to them, not ask for being shot.Ask for do-nuts and or money apparently
Uh, just let me know, what the Police should do with criminals? Dance mazurka? Hey-ho.