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An Idea. To stop smugglers docking right in-front of you. - Stuart.croll - 03-26-2011
' Wrote:Alright, so basically, I've been more then a little annoyed when Smugglers constantly dock on Manhattan, right in-front of me, and I can't do jack. It's even more silly when I explicitly say that the docking ports have revoked their docking rights and they dock anyone.By all means make smuggling harder but before you do you have to make it more profitable.
So, I propose, the /lock and /unlock. Short commands, to be used quickly.
How it works is, you target someone and type /lock. All bases belonging to the lawfuls in the system would revoke their docking rights. (If that's too complex, just deny access to all bases in range.) So, if you have an LPI, Navy or LSF ID, all Liberty Lawful bases in range would revoke docking rights to the person you're locking. The /unlock command just reverses the /lock.
Addendum: I forgot to add, the /lock will expire after five minutes, so it can't be abused by /lock'ing and forgetting about it.
Obviously, it's still just a concept, and obviously due to it's nature it can be abused. So I propose if it is implemented, we have a two week test period. If the community can't handle the command, then we'll make it for Official Factions only.
Any suggestions, idea's, ect appreciated.
I know that that would be a two minute fix for the admins.
An Idea. To stop smugglers docking right in-front of you. - Sheleix - 03-26-2011
I dont say that idea is bad but there will always be some smart guy that will abuse this but i would support u and your locking suggestion.
An Idea. To stop smugglers docking right in-front of you. - VoluptaBox - 03-26-2011
' Wrote:I support it.
An Idea. To stop smugglers docking right in-front of you. - xiphos - 03-26-2011
' Wrote:I dont say that idea is bad but there will always be some smart guy that will abuse this but i would support u and your locking suggestion.
then the admins have to put a msg like:Station/planet locked by...... . When someone abuse it, you have a proof. too much work? i have no clue. only a opinion.
on the other side there are in this case more work for the admins with sanction reports?
An Idea. To stop smugglers docking right in-front of you. - Aphil - 03-26-2011
' Wrote:on the other side there are in this case more work for the admins with sanction reports?
That's the beauty of it. Not at all. It saves them time processing fewer FR5's, and sanctions relating to Smugglers, ect, docking on Lawful bases.
An Idea. To stop smugglers docking right in-front of you. - xiphos - 03-26-2011
' Wrote:That's the beauty of it. Not at all. It saves them time processing fewer FR5's, and sanctions relating to Smugglers, ect, docking on Lawful bases.
that makes sense. i agree
An Idea. To stop smugglers docking right in-front of you. - Daedric - 03-26-2011
It is a double edge sword to be honest.
I think Cannon was working on something like this though. I mean, as a Zoner we use FR5 to remove people's docking rights. With three official factions sometimes FR5s don't jive, so I think there was work on some other way to restrict docking rights. I dunno for sure though.
An Idea. To stop smugglers docking right in-front of you. - Cris - 03-26-2011
' Wrote:By all means make smuggling harder but before you do you have to make it more profitable.
I know that that would be a two minute fix for the admins.
This. Though fixing the prices is not exactly a two minute fix.
An Idea. To stop smugglers docking right in-front of you. - ryoken - 03-26-2011
It is a good idea,but not needed. We have the base saying so and so trying to dock. If you already stated docking rights revoked,and he still docks? screen it,and report it. He looses cash/guns,and sometimes more depending on admin,and if first time.
A few thing's i dislike though.
1/A known smuggler comes in system(yes Officials too powergame) and before they even spot him they lock the docking rings. Total BS,and it will be abused.
2/ 90% of the time no Officials are on,or not in system. So all the indies are still screwed,and will resort back to screens,and reporting to sanctions. So would have to be for ALL ID'd players. So i would make it Guard ID only,so only though with full rep can do it.
3/ There pretty much is no reason to smuggle now,it makes less per hour(almost 50% less) then legal trading,because of all the time it takes to avoid being spotted.
An Idea. To stop smugglers docking right in-front of you. - Aphil - 03-26-2011
' Wrote:It is a good idea,but not needed. We have the base saying so and so trying to dock. If you already stated docking rights revoked,and he still docks? screen it,and report it. He looses cash/guns,and sometimes more depending on admin,and if first time.
A few thing's i dislike though.
1/A known smuggler comes in system(yes Officials too powergame) and before they even spot him they lock the docking rings. Total BS,and it will be abused.
2/ 90% of the time no Officials are on,or not in system. So all the indies are still screwed,and will resort back to screens,and reporting to sanctions. So would have to be for ALL ID'd players. So i would make it Guard ID only,so only though with full rep can do it.
3/ There pretty much is no reason to smuggle now,it makes less per hour(almost 50% less) then legal trading,because of all the time it takes to avoid being spotted.
1 If he's a known smuggler, he hasn't done a very good job now has he? If you notice, however, I said you have to TARGET the person, which means you have to be within 10k of him.
2 Well, lets hope the indies don't muck this up during the trial period then. And no to the Guard ID. It's just a pain in the behind to get.
3 People shouldn't be smuggling to the Capital of a House with Police in orbit, now should they? Though, I agree. An increase in Contraband prices is a good idea. Especially since it's MUCH riskier, what with TLAGSNET and now /lock.
Better prices, riskier. Smugglers will have to avoid the Lanes, and use Trade Lanes. They'll also need to be MUCH more careful when coming into orbit around a planet. Indeed, it might be best for them just to deliver to Rochester or Buffalo.
Quote:If you already stated docking rights revoked,and he still docks? screen it,and report it. He looses cash/guns,and sometimes more depending on admin,and if first time.The whole point of this is to not waste the Admins time with reports for that. With this in place, it saves time for the Admins that can be used for more important things. Do you know how many people I've had do this since I joined the LPI not even a week ago? More then ten. That's a lot of work, and that's just me personally. I can't say how much this has happened to other people.