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NPC pilots as perishable goods / Raise the income given by missions - Rommie - 04-22-2011
' Wrote:why not just have missions were you choose what you fight help people get up the ladder many a time i have taken mission thinking they are low pay low level then 4 ossis pop up in my face. realy. make it so you can choose if this is possiable the caps can fight caps and fighters can fight fightersI don't think that's possible.
NPC pilots as perishable goods / Raise the income given by missions - tommantom - 04-22-2011
damn would be better though
NPC pilots as perishable goods / Raise the income given by missions - michiyl - 04-22-2011
' Wrote:[...]Trading, Mining and Pirating are the PRIMARY income sources. Missions are secondary, and thus lower.
Missions aren't a reasonable income source.
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' Wrote:[...]Trading runs/smuggling:
They're time consuming, and you often lose more credits than they give you if you get careless. Should they have more benefits to it, you would see groups of people being able to entirely pay all expenses of their ships simply by doing some missions, as an alternative to Trading, Mining and Pirating.
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They're time consuming, and you often lose more credits than they give you if you are careless.
Pirating:
It's time consuming, stressful and you can lose quite a lot of credits if you are careless.
You get my point?
' Wrote:[...]Prison Liners don't wait for someone to fill them up like an ore hauler. Police forces don't patrol the streets to arrest everybody to fill up the prisons either.
Then would come in play Prison Liners/Transports, which would buy an updated version of NPC pilots, which are perishable. This would mean that a single fighter doing missions and trying to fill the haul of a transport with it won't be efficient at it, while a group of organized pilots will be able to fill up a transport quite quickly.
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Prisoners & pilots =/= ore
' Wrote:[...]When my trading character sees friendly NPC pilots floating in space, they are tractored in and get everything they need. Food, water, a place to rest. No need for decay.
Since they are perishable, the price of this commodity should be updated. Why would it be perishable? Well, most likely horrid conditions of pods, rapid decay of nomad brains, injuries, etc.
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If it'd be a Nomad brain? Cryocubes:cool:
' Wrote:6 hours and no feedbacks?Time zones. Remember that.
' Wrote:Raise Mission Incomes for sure, i mean, there must be another ways than trading to earn money... But NO to NPC PilotsOther ways than trading:
Mining, pirating, bounty hunting, escort/scout services ...
' Wrote:I dont really know what to think about that, on the one side its a good idea, but on the other "Perish"able sounds.. well, and how long would it take them to perish...Sirius credit cards fill my cargo hold. I'm used to it. Don't think to much about that :D
something semi-offtopic:
We should make pilots take more cargo space. No fighter is able to hold 50 pilots in his hold....
Oh, and for those who are interested:
Voted no. Twice:cool:
NPC pilots as perishable goods / Raise the income given by missions - Pinko - 04-22-2011
' Wrote:Trading, Mining and Pirating are the PRIMARY income sources. Missions are secondary, and thus lower.
Why -should- it be a secondary income means? In Vanilla single player, doing missions would give you just as much of a profit than trading would.
Quote:Prison Liners don't wait for someone to fill them up like an ore hauler. Police forces don't patrol the streets to arrest everybody to fill up the prisons either.Yeah, well, that really depends on where you live, if you wanna base yourself on RL examples. Plus, I seriously doubt that the actual United States have to handle Liberty Rogues driving Tanks through their country.
Prisoners & pilots =/= ore
Unless you consider Hell's Angels as the Rogues' equivalent. Then again, yeah, several countries still do plenty of operations just to arrest criminal groups. I don't see anything wrong with it, either.
NPC pilots as perishable goods / Raise the income given by missions - Hidamari - 04-22-2011
' Wrote:A&L guy claimed that he was able to make more than a billion credits "easily" in a week doing missions ( anti-cap missions from rostock )
so the payout appears to be good enough ( at least when you fly alone vs. 4 osiris all of them dropping great amounts of commodities and credit cards )
what could be done is:
- raise the mission PAYOUT - but nerf the NPC drops severely
yes but that means you need a BHG Mako, not everyone wants or has one of these.
Missions should be buffed universally in sirius,
I once, got a Corsair mission, in Cambridge from Battleship Norfolk, i was like "yus..letsa go" I get all the way to the waypoint, and 2 Osiris NPC's spawn there, the only downside to this is I was using a paladin (fun times were had), I was like O_O Q_Q
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hell, i didnt even know you COULD get missions like that, specifically missions in cambridge, thats like going to california and getting a OC dread mission... at random. >.> I have never found one before or since this day much to my distress.
There should be more difficult missions. like Kusari BS missions from Derby, Bretonia BS missions from Stokes, which would promote more activity on that front, also for Dundee too.
bretonia GB/Cruiser missions for Arranmore. Molly GB missions for BMM at graves maybe:P
Xeno Cap8 Hegemon missions for Junkers at Rochester, RM BS/Cruiser/GB missions at New Hampshire and Texas, Lib Dread/Cruiser/GB missions in where ever RM stuff is likely to be attacked (since i have no rhienland ships somebody can fill this in)
In response to the perishable cargo, I say no, I have a ship that is a makeshift prison, and if all my subjects died it wouldnt be very good, maybe if they died unless you had food water and oxygen on board, then yes that would be cool.
NPC pilots as perishable goods / Raise the income given by missions - Pinko - 04-22-2011
And yeah, Jinx. That only works if you have a Battleship or something like that. Soemthing you must have powertraded weeks to get. Otherwise, people should be rewarded for doing missions and using teamwork to complete them, especially if caps are involved.
EDIT: Buff Mission NPCs in consequence?
NPC pilots as perishable goods / Raise the income given by missions - michiyl - 04-22-2011
' Wrote:Why -should- it be a secondary income means? In Vanilla single player, doing missions would give you just as much of a profit than trading would.At least it looks to me like they are secondary. Besides the payment for the successfully completed mission, you get all the loot ... or at least as much as you can press into your ship:D
Trading is different than in vanilla Freelancer because Igiss and the dev team made a lot of enhancements/changes to the trading routes. And I don't remember any embargoes in vanilla Freelancer which allowed some more profit for blockade runners.
Mining is also a bit different now. But it gives WAY MORE credits than if you'd mine vanilla commodities!
NPC pilots as perishable goods / Raise the income given by missions - Pinko - 04-22-2011
' Wrote:At least it looks to me like they are secondary. Besides the payment for the successfully completed mission, you get all the loot ... or at least as much as you can press into your ship:D
Trading is different than in vanilla Freelancer because Igiss and the dev team made a lot of enhancements/changes to the trading routes. And I don't remember any embargoes in vanilla Freelancer which allowed some more profit for blockade runners.
Mining is also a bit different now. But it gives WAY MORE credits than if you'd mine vanilla commodities!
Then it's time to change missions so they pay more, no?
NPC pilots as perishable goods / Raise the income given by missions - Echo 7-7 - 04-22-2011
Quote:Then it's time to change missions so they pay more, no?
I think it's worth a shot. If it doesn't work out, it can be reversed without ruining anyone's (most people's) Disco way of life. It would be a way to make money without trading or mining, even if it doesn't pay quite as well.
NPC pilots as perishable goods / Raise the income given by missions - Ceoran - 04-22-2011
' Wrote:yes but that means you need a BHG Mako, not everyone wants or has one of these.
Actually that's not true. You can do anti-corsair missions in O-15 in a thresher if you want, though the higher ones allow you to do them faster. The trick is that the NPCs, that spawn in that ugly yellow cloud, can't spot you at a certain distance and hence won't move, so you can easily mortar them to death.
Also, I've seen people killing NPC bs' in bombers before (and participated myself), but that requires some teamwork and may take ages.
' Wrote:I think it's worth a shot. If it doesn't work out, it can be reversed without ruining anyone's (most people's) Disco way of life. It would be a way to make money without trading or mining, even if it doesn't pay quite as well.
I think that's the same we thought when mining was introduced;)