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A poll - michiyl - 05-12-2011
' Wrote:Those're recolored Kusari textures, :|Oh ... sorry:D
... but you can still re-recolor them after you've applied the textures;)So, in fact, you can make a green, blue, red, grey or whatever-color-you-can-think-of Wasupu redux!
So, it's not about the texture color then, it's about the alignment with the model:)And it looks very good!
A poll - Hades - 05-12-2011
Not bad, my only issue with it is what looks to be very messy geometry on the engines.
A poll - Zelot - 05-13-2011
Ah, yet another thread where an incomplete ship is put to the community with little to no context and asked if it should be put into the mod.
Now if you want to really put the question to people, do it properly.
Does this ship look like it fit the Kusari roots of Renzu while still having an appeal on the Sirius wide civilian market?
Do you think this ship fits what it should be, or is it just better than what is there now?
Is this ship part of a complete line, or is it a single ship that another line will then need to be developed to fit?
IS THIS SHIP READY TO BE PUT INTO THE MOD TODAY???
A poll - Varok - 05-13-2011
I like it. Definitely better than the current one.
A poll - Durandal - 05-13-2011
' Wrote:Ah, yet another thread where an incomplete ship is put to the community with little to no context and asked if it should be put into the mod.
Now if you want to really put the question to people, do it properly.
Does this ship look like it fit the Kusari roots of Renzu while still having an appeal on the Sirius wide civilian market?
Do you think this ship fits what it should be, or is it just better than what is there now?
Is this ship part of a complete line, or is it a single ship that another line will then need to be developed to fit?
IS THIS SHIP READY TO BE PUT INTO THE MOD TODAY???
Are you suggesting I am incapable of completing a ship after doing two shiplines for Neo Terra, The Spyglass, and the Jormungand? Get real please.
The only reason I didn't post a finished ingame model is because my totally legit copy of Max dies every time windows updates, and I cbf finishing something if people don't want it.
As far as having Kusari roots but appeal to a Sirius wide market, yes. Yes it does. It lacks Kusari's traditional brown paintjob while still maintaining Kusari esque patterns and geometrical features.
Yes, it is part of a complete line, save for the fighters. And I am going to be completely honest and tell you up front as a modeller that you WILL not get a snubline that fits decently with that ship. It's like mixing apples and oranges. The texture of the liner can be easily changed to reflect these, however.
Now unless you have anything more to add with your insulting remarks, I suggest you let the thread proceed as it was planned.
A poll - Zelot - 05-13-2011
' Wrote:I like it. Definitely better than the current one.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/T.../WasupuWIP5.png
http://discoverygc.com/wiki/index.php/File:Wasupu-s.png#file
Dude, look again, it pretty much is the current one.
A poll - Durandal - 05-13-2011
Except the textures don't look like they were puked on in 1995, and it has a cockpit. As well as a shipline which actually fits with it.
A poll - Zelot - 05-13-2011
' Wrote:Are you suggesting I am incapable of completing a ship after doing two shiplines for Neo Terra, The Spyglass, and the Jormungand? Get real please.
I have seen many models who have gotten many more ships into the game than you not get stuff done on a regular basis.
Quote:The only reason I didn't post a finished ingame model is because my totally legit copy of Max dies every time windows updates, and I cbf finishing something if people don't want it.
I see this as part of the problem. When a faction, group, or person commissions a ship, it shouldn't matter what the rabble on the forums think. I have seen more ships, that would have been great for submission be ruined by community feedback on it. I wish modelers would stop with all the feedback threads, I don't think I can recall a single thread that brought about a better ships.
Quote:As far as having Kusari roots but appeal to a Sirius wide market, yes. Yes it does. It lacks Kusari's traditional brown paintjob while still maintaining Kusari esque patterns and geometrical features.
I disagree, but I am sure you are more familiar with the designs and forms in Kusari than I am, so its no biggie.
Quote:Yes, it is part of a complete line, save for the fighters. And I am going to be completely honest and tell you up front as a modeller that you WILL not get a snubline that fits decently with that ship. It's like mixing apples and oranges. The texture of the liner can be easily changed to reflect these, however.
Wait, its a civilian line, so what other ships are there in the line? A complete line save the fighters? There is already a liner, so.... what makes up this complete line you are talking about? Is there a Renzu Battleship, a Renzu Carrier, a Renzu Cruiser and a Renzu Gunboat? I lol.
Quote:Now unless you have anything more to add with your insulting remarks, I suggest you let the thread proceed as it was planned.
How was this thread supposed to proceed by your plan? Because it seems to me the plan was to steal a project from another modeller out of what seems to be either spite or some desire to prove some irrelevant point, and not about creating the best ship to add to the game. If it is as it seems to me, no I have no intention of leaving this thread to proceed as you planned it.
' Wrote:Except the textures don't look like they were puked on in 1995, and it has a cockpit. As well as a shipline which actually fits with it.
So it's just the same import model, just cleaned up?
A poll - Total.Absolution - 05-13-2011
' Wrote:http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/T.../WasupuWIP5.png
http://discoverygc.com/wiki/index.php/File:Wasupu-s.png#file
Dude, look again, it pretty much is the current one.
Were your eyes mangled by a very angry grizzly bear, then eaten?
For one, the textures are worth looking at. They aren't mismatched with blue and tan next to each other. There is actual Kusari design in it. The colors are crisper, and it looks much more detailed. But I guess people don't care, lets replace something else that doesn't need to be replaced.
kekekekekeke
A poll - Durandal - 05-13-2011
' Wrote:I have seen many models who have gotten many more ships into the game than you not get stuff done on a regular basis.
And if I say I'm not like the others?
' Wrote:I see this as part of the problem. When a faction, group, or person commissions a ship, it shouldn't matter what the rabble on the forums think. I have seen more ships, that would have been great for submission be ruined by community feedback on it. I wish modelers would stop with all the feedback threads, I don't think I can recall a single thread that brought about a better ships.
Thing is, I don't really care whether or not it gets submitted either way. Ain't as if I'm working for money or asking for it, or working for a faction whom asked me directly, I just think it'd be a shame to see Sasaki's models go to waste. Thing is, the ship doesn't belong to you. Much as you might love the idea of waving your IND ownership of Renzu around, it's a shipline - my bad - snubline *coughs heavily before continuing* that's made for the civilian market. I think the community has the right to an opnion
' Wrote:I disagree, but I am sure you are more familiar with the designs and forms in Kusari than I am, so its not biggie.
Can't do unless you basically want what Luis made, and while I respect Luis and his work, I don't think his models had anything in common with Kusari.
' Wrote:Wait, its a civilian line, so what other ships are there in the line? A complete line save the fighters? There is already a liner, so.... what makes up this complete line you are talking about? Is there a Renzu Battleship, a Renzu Carrier, a Renzu Cruiser and a Renzu Gunboat? I lol.
Touketsu, Saishi, Ki, and I modelled a bomber if you want it used. Sure, can do the rest of those things if you want. Gunboat might be sexy. Complete CIVILIAN line may have been a better term, I admit. I'm using the Liner as reference to anything bigger.
' Wrote:How was this thread supposed to proceed by your plan? Because it seems to me the plan was to steal a project from another modeller out of what seems to be either spite or some desire to prove some irrelevant point, and not about creating the best ship to add to the game. If it is as it seems to me, no I have no intention of leaving this thread to proceed as you planned it.
Yeah, because I'm totally stealing models that Sasaki asked me to finish in a PM after passing on the files to me. Should still have it laying around, I'll dig for it. And the only point of this thread is to prove that the community can collectively decide they want a few small things.
I'll concur with you that letting the community decide rules and the like isn't allllwaays the brightest idea, but it's four fighters... let 'em have their fun.
' Wrote:So it's just the same import model, just cleaned up?
The Wasupu is an original model by Legeonation, along with the Tigershark, Virage, Falcata, and Havoc.
This current model is an upgrade of his work, which I wish he were still with us to approve or disapprove of, but sadly he is not.