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Secondary faction IDs - Daedric - 06-24-2011
' Wrote:If I remember correctly, a rule is stating that when there is no official faction for granting tech, then you can still use this tech with forum RP. I believe that talking to the unofficial Molly faction counts as sufficient forum RP, no ?
Athenian recently said if there is no official faction, you treat the cell as red. I'll have to look for said quote though.
Secondary faction IDs - Enoch - 06-24-2011
' Wrote:Athenian recently said if there is no official faction, you treat the cell as red. I'll have to look for said quote though.Right, I remember that. However, no offense to Athenian, the rule I was talking about is, well, a rule. Maybe Athenian didn't remember it at the time he wrote that, or maybe it is not the position of the admin team. I trust Athenian, of course, but he was contradicting a rule, as far as I know.
EDIT : I can't seem to find the rule I am talking about... Maybe it's just a guideline and not an actual rule.
Secondary faction IDs - Primitive - 06-24-2011
' Wrote:Now, what you -can- do, and probably should, is work with Rogues who -can- grant you the Molly equipment, until the Molly faction is on it's feet.
So, basically, have the leader of this unofficial group contact the leader of the Rogues and ask him to approve of this until the Molly faction becomes official. This, however, wouldn't be possible for other groups, since Rogue/Molly tech is rather unique in their sharing.
I suggested same thing as pretty great solution. Use rogue permission (let molly leader ask them for you) for ships and guns, then when mollys hits official you can use mollys guns as well.
Secondary faction IDs - Hidamari - 06-24-2011
I personally would not complain about anything in the OP.
I would have no problems with Molly mercenarys using molly technology, and would not be running back to the forum like "o mai gawd they has br0ken rulez!"
I might have a little more to say about it if it were borderworld tech + molly tech.
however pirate Z line ships + Merc ID, really, go for it.:nyam:
Secondary faction IDs - Petitioner - 07-05-2011
I was under the impression that if a faction that's white-celled to a particular ID has no official player representative, that all white cells for that faction were treated as green cells. Eg, all Molly guns are available to Mercs as there's no official faction.
If this is wrong, please correct me, as I have a lot of Trefoils to be removing from certain shi- not, that I broke the rules.:unsure:
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' Wrote:Athenian recently said if there is no official faction, you treat the cell as red. I'll have to look for said quote though.If this is the case than certain things have certainly changed a great deal. Last time I was talking about the subject, back in mid 2010, it was commonly assumed that white cell, no OF, was a green cell.
People were actually responsible enough to do forum RP beforehand, and it was not commonly abused. That's how it ought to be, but that's like, my opinion, man.
Secondary faction IDs - Daedric - 07-05-2011
' Wrote:Molly stuff is controlled by the Mollies. Of which there are none at present. They've clearly allowed themselves to be decommissioned. That is to say, their bases haven't been abandoned and left open to looters from across known space. It's just that they don't exist, officially. They have no voice. No leaders. No guiding light.
However, they haven't gone away, you know.
Their stuff is not civilian. Trefoils are not going to be seen in department stores at knockdown prices.
In the absence of a faction, obviously all manner of people will be inconvenienced, so I imagine it's only a matter of time before someone makes a Molly faction to handle this important job. It's so important that clearly all other Molly priorities will have to be forgotten about.
In short, the requirements are the same - ie faction permission. In the absence of a faction, our thinking on who controls technology may need to be reconsidered. For now, consider those boxes red.
This could change. But possibly won't.
Also: anyone with proof of people cheating to keep activity up should post evidence or stop with the vague accusations. It's starting to sound paranoid.
From this thread: http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=100129
I always thought that the cells reverted to the previous system. If there is no official faction, you must have forum role play to use the technology.
Secondary faction IDs - Markus_Janus - 07-19-2011
The white boxes becomming forum RP required was indeed a rule at one point.
It seems to have been removed a while ago as I first noticed it's absence a month or two ago.
Secondary faction IDs - Govedo13 - 08-02-2011
So we are willing to start this running slowly.
My question to the admins will be:
Can we use Molly technology in the following combination:
[M] Tag, Merc ID and Molly IFF without being official or not?
Because from what Laowai said it seems it should not be a problem. If I look at the tech-chart restrictions then we cannot do it till we get official because Mollys are red cell now to Merc ID.
We are not willing to use the Molly ID because then the Merc wont be any-kind different then the regular Molly and then ZoI problems might appear.
For example Molly IDed/IFFed ship hunting let say in Liberty or in Rheinland.