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Release the Raven's Claw back to us civis like in 4.84! - Fat.Igor - 01-09-2012
Guys, dont know if you know but, that ship is...not that good. No, seriously, you should try flying it. I think even the Eagle is better than that.
Release the Raven's Claw back to us civis like in 4.84! - RParade - 01-09-2012
Raven Claw sucks.
The only reason people used it was because it had 8 gunslots, and not for any other reason. Guardian/Avenger was better than the Raven Claw except the Raven Claw could mount 6 guns and 2 missile launchers. The ship itself flies like a brick. The gunslots are the only thing that made the ship viable. I wouldn't mind seeing it used again; it would make a great ship for the Order or the LSF.
The Slipstream (aka Penumbra) is broken because it has a ridiculous hitbox. We used to kill battleships with those things in 4.84. That ship should be removed from the mod entirely. It was the most OP ship in the mod save the Blood Dragon Bomber...
Release the Raven's Claw back to us civis like in 4.84! - Linkus - 01-09-2012
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It probably ought to be removed from el mod instead of put back into the open market.
Release the Raven's Claw back to us civis like in 4.84! - DarthBindo - 01-10-2012
The shadow's claw flies like the Titan, except worse.
That however, doesn't make it a sucky ship as so many would assume.
The Corsairs seem to do just fine.
Release the Raven's Claw back to us civis like in 4.84! - BaconSoda - 01-10-2012
The Raven's Claw/Shadow is different. When a ship is given a turning ability, there are two stats:
1. The speed in which is goes into full-turn (acceleration)
2. Full-turn speed
The Shadow is given extremely fast full-turn speed but extremely slow acceleration. It manages this by acting like the Millennium Falcon in Star Wars: Rogue Squadron II: it makes a complete roll perpendicular to the way you want it to turn before actually turning at turn speed. What's also somewhat odd about it is that it's very flat with a very small powercore.
It's weird. Really weird.
What ends up happening is that you get a ship which turns late and when it does turn, whichever direction you turn it in shows the enemy the profile that's easiest to shoot. When you do eventually get into full turn, you often don't even need to be there anymore. Then when you do go to shoot, you drain the Eagle plant in few shots.
That said, is it good? Yeah. It's pretty good. It's just that no one has learned how to fly it. Why would they? That means they'd be bad at flying every other ship in the game.
Why am I saying this? I'm not quite sure, but the way it flies is different, to say the least.
PS: the Penubra Hitbox has been fixed. It turns like a HF and it has less armor than the Wyrm, the smallest, most agile LF in the game. You tell me: does that sound good to you?
Release the Raven's Claw back to us civis like in 4.84! - Taneru - 01-10-2012
I am of the opinion that the ship should be just stripped from the mod.
No one flies it.
No one needs it.
The model is sub-par in quality compared to most other ships.
The texture is terribly simple.
It flies .... oddly.