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Why don't planes have rear mounted missiles? - Madvillain - 01-19-2012
I think (but i am really not sure) that dogfights are also pretty rare these days, maybe thats why it's not implemented
Why don't planes have rear mounted missiles? - r3vange - 01-19-2012
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[color=#FFFFFF]Those are Cobra type maneuvers if you are wondering
Why don't planes have rear mounted missiles? - Ursus - 01-19-2012
I'm not sure how much of an effect the velocity would have. On the one hand the rocket's thrust should be enough to push it along, but on the other hand the airodynamics all depend on air speed so it would probably tumble around quite a bit. Imagine a little model airplane with a weight in the nose, rockets use the same principle. What would happen with the weight in the tail? Thrust is what pushes it but air speed makes it fly straight. I imagine it would just warble around until thrust built up enough air speed, then it would have to stabilize and plat an attitude... just easier to shoot it forward.
Why don't planes have rear mounted missiles? - Hielor - 01-19-2012
Modern aircraft don't have dogfights. Encounters are resolved BVR (beyond visual range) by long-range missiles.
Why don't planes have rear mounted missiles? - casero - 01-19-2012
' Wrote:Modern aircraft don't have dogfights. Encounters are resolved BVR (beyond visual range) by long-range missiles.
Was about to say the same.
Fights don't last that long nowadays.
Why don't planes have rear mounted missiles? - Maelstrom - 01-19-2012
Why use a missile?
Missiles have a lot of problems that dumb launch proximity burst weapons wouldn't have.
Design the weapon so that it's supposed to bounce eratically in the jet wash. Instead of launching one, launch many. Have them set on timers to arm, so that the proximity sensor does not target the launch plane. Rather than a powerful explosive, though that could work, have them act as shrapnel weapons.
Wonder what 1500 ball bearings traveling at supersonic speeds would do to the underside of atmospheric flight platforms?
Have to agree with the posters above, though, it's not likely to be used that often.
Why don't planes have rear mounted missiles? - Fletcher - 01-19-2012
' Wrote:Modern aircraft don't have dogfights. Encounters are resolved BVR (beyond visual range) by long-range missiles.Look up the Korean War with the Super Sabres, no guns, just missiles. You'll notice that the missiles are useless up close and the MiG pilots were trained I believe to get in close to take advantage of the major flaw. The Super Sabres were excellent at getting into combat and from theatre to theatre quickly, great overall speed, sadly their agility was a bit lacklustre, meaning they were usually doomed up close.
Why don't planes have rear mounted missiles? - Grumblesaur - 01-19-2012
' Wrote:Look up the Korean War with the Super Sabres, no guns, just missiles. You'll notice that the missiles are useless up close and the MiG pilots were trained I believe to get in close to take advantage of the major flaw. The Super Sabres were excellent at getting into combat and from theatre to theatre quickly, great overall speed, sadly their agility was a bit lacklustre, meaning they were usually doomed up close.
F-86 Sabres were used more frequently than F-100s.
Why don't planes have rear mounted missiles? - Hielor - 01-19-2012
' Wrote:Look up the Korean War with the Super Sabres, no guns, just missiles. You'll notice that the missiles are useless up close and the MiG pilots were trained I believe to get in close to take advantage of the major flaw. The Super Sabres were excellent at getting into combat and from theatre to theatre quickly, great overall speed, sadly their agility was a bit lacklustre, meaning they were usually doomed up close.The Korean War was 50 years ago. Not "modern" by any stretch of the imagination.
Why don't planes have rear mounted missiles? - Fletcher - 01-19-2012
Ah my bad, it was one of the Sabre types.
@Hielor, it was still in the same mindset that there would be 'no-dogfights' if you could have stand off weapons, as history shows, you cannot bank on that.